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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0013172 | Dwarf Fortress | Religion | public | 2025-05-14 19:17 | 2025-05-14 19:17 |
| Reporter | Swooderman | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | sometimes |
| Status | new | Resolution | open | ||
| Product Version | 51.11 | ||||
| Summary | 0013172: Religious orders block satisfaction for secondary Deities | ||||
| Description | When two dwarves get married and have children that inherit their religious/god affiliations and those children grow up they become unable to do anything if they inherit a lone deity without religious order affiliations and gain a religious order of a different god from their parents or if they convert to one local to the fort population. It doesn't seem to occur in immigrant populations but my testing is narrow in that regard and seems only tied to Offspring in a fortress through inheritances or conversion. The result of this is at around age '24' the need will achieve a point so bad that the now adult dwarf will become permanently locked into a state of prayer in either the temple of their order or a temple of their secondary god/or general temple stopping only to eat/drink/sleep. And be unable to fulfill the need to the god not part of his religious order. Essentially it seems that the orders religious rites takes priority over general prayer to a secondary deity as tricking the affected grown children in a temple of their second god using the lever trick resulting in them praying/meditating to the right god causes them to receive the positive thought for incompletely performing the rites of the religious order unrelated to that god instead of communing with their secondary deity | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | I'm not 100% on the metrics of inheriting religious order affiliations from parents but what the set up looks like is a dwarf with the problem has to have ties to a religious order and an unaffiliated deity. Specifically seems to occur to children born in player fort who inherited from parents or converted to a religious order while they are growing up, the religious order 'rites' take priority even when they are just performing prayers to the second deity, even while inside a temple of only said deity. | ||||
| Additional Information | I have a steam mods on but they are several of the additional races mods, Vanilla Civilizations Expanded, and Advanced Agriculture being the main ones on steam with some minor ones that adds reactions/materials nothing that I know of modified religions. The fort I am in all affected dwarves are from the same couple the mother worships a lone god Gamil with no religious orders and the father worships what seems to be all the gods of the dwarven civ and has "given up" his affiliations with his past holy order possibly related to 0013144 as this fort is quite old by player standards (37 years) so predates last patch and nearly all the dwarves are extremely satisfied and the father does not have any issue praying to all his gods one after another but unrelatedly does spend a lot of time praying but that's not a bug when you worship like 7 gods. But his former religious order is not even the same one his children adhere too. There are 7 children of this union all who inherited their mother's worship of the god Gamil, The father seems to have passed on only 1 other god at most to the children. 3 of those children are adults and have converted to "The Denomination of Hopper" a religious order neither parents have nor have ever any historical link to, those 3 are from age 21-27 and the youngest adult at 21 is slowly becoming more distracted by her lack of prayer but still performs other tasks the other two adults are now full-blown incapable of other tasks as starting around age 24 the unmet need to pray to Gamil now consumes their life. But failing because no mater what temple they go to it seems the religious rites of the Denomination of Hopper will trigger instead when they finish praying. | ||||
| Tags | 51.11, needs, religion | ||||
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2025-05-14 19:17 | Swooderman | New Issue | |
| 2025-05-14 19:17 | Swooderman | Tag Attached: 51.11 | |
| 2025-05-14 19:17 | Swooderman | Tag Attached: needs | |
| 2025-05-14 19:17 | Swooderman | Tag Attached: religion |
