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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0001414Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Eating/Drinkingpublic2010-07-13 05:57
ReporterHalex Assigned Touser6 
PriorityhighSeveritymajorReproducibilityrandom
Status resolvedResolutionduplicate 
OSWindows 7 
Product Version0.31.03 
Summary0001414: Dwarves refuse to use water zones, wells - save included
DescriptionSave - http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2201
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A random selection of my dwarves are dying from thirst. i have wells set up inside they can easily access and rivers and lakes registered as zones they can drink from outside they can also access but randomly it seems some dwarves don't see any food or water and then die. i have it saved right before some of them dies but i don't know how to send saves
Steps To Reproducei have no idea completely random it seems
Additional Informationlet me know if it may be something i'm just doing wrong.....
Tagsdehydration, water

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duplicate of 0001007 new Wells become unusable after being used for anything other than drinking 

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Naros

2010-04-21 18:51

reporter   ~0004529

Last edited: 2010-04-21 18:53

Is there a caravan at your depot? If so, could be related to http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=237

If not, then it's a duplicate of http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=8

Is there any way to shorten links?
HTML doesn't work.

Halex

2010-04-21 19:55

reporter   ~0004531

no carvan at depot and you are correct sorry lol. i didn't know you could search through other people's bugs till after i submitted

user6

2010-04-22 00:37

  ~0004555

I don't think 0000008 would be likely to cause that many deaths. Have you created any burrows? When you 'i' over the drinking zones, is the number next to "Water Source" greater than 0?

snow

2010-04-22 02:10

reporter   ~0004564

dwarves dont like drinking water; maybe they're deciding to go get their ration too late (as they are already grow thirsty or even dehydrated with booze, which they like perfectly well)

Halex

2010-04-22 07:32

reporter   ~0004593

Last edited: 2010-04-22 10:15

yeah footkerchief after the first one died i started making zones out of rivers and lakes and the number on each one was over zero i remember. i also made rooms out of the 5 wells i had inside. and that might be snow i'm not sure if i had any alcohol left or not but after they started dying i thought about that too and sent one to start brewing but then there were no barrels and than more people started dying and than the other ones were throwing tantrums cause of it..... but i still have it saved right before that stuff starts happening maybe i'll try again in a bit. even if there is no alcohol thou, this shouldn't be happening

and you're right i just noticed this isn't a duplicate of the other one. i remember the first dwarf this happened to i saw him thirsty and starving and i disabled all of his jobs. he still died a little while after that

and i created a burrow and added everyone to it before when i got attacked cause i don't know how to send everyone inside in the new version but i deleted it after it was done

user6

2010-04-22 10:29

  ~0004613

Hmm... if the "water source" number on the zones was greater than 0, I don't think it could have been salt water. Could you upload the save, please? Create a zip file containing the save's region folder (in /data/save), and upload the zip file to http://dffd.wimbli.com/

Halex

2010-04-22 13:57

reporter   ~0004632

i'm really sorry :( i was playing again and this time even after 7 people died i got it back to normal more or less and i saved again. i was going to leave a duplicate in case you guys needed it but my game has no data/save. i'm using the gold plated tileset so maybe that changed something? if this save is still of any use do you know where the gold plated tileset puts it's saves? i feel really guilty now D:

user6

2010-04-22 15:27

  ~0004640

You... don't have a folder called "save" in the "data" folder? Oh, you're on Windows 7. Did you install DF in Program Files?

Halex

2010-04-22 16:58

reporter   ~0004652

yep. but i don't see a save folder in there

user6

2010-04-22 18:28

  ~0004658

Yeah, installing it in Program Files is the problem. Vista and Windows 7 "protect" Program Files.

Go to C:\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files. You should see a "mirror" of your DF folder there, and it should contain /data/save. Copy /data/save into the real DF folder, and then move the DF folder out of Program Files so that Win 7 will stop being a nuisance.

After that, you should be able to upload the save as explained above.

Halex

2010-04-22 19:24

reporter   ~0004661

Last edited: 2010-04-22 19:30

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2201 booyah. sorry again if i made it harder by saving after the event

also if you scroll way back on the announcements you see the last person that died from it. Anais. but maybe she was just overly sad from the other people dying from thirst? i don't know if that's possible but the other ones were grouped together, she died a bit afterwards.

user6

2010-04-22 21:54

  ~0004674

Yeah, I loaded it up and forbade all the booze, and they seem to be drinking from the wells just fine. I removed the walls and they drank from the river. It all seems normal.

If dwarves go insane/melancholy, they usually die of dehydration. Is it possible that the ones who died had all gone insane?

Halex

2010-04-23 07:00

reporter   ~0004707

Last edited: 2010-04-23 07:12

that's only possible for anais. the other ones were all grouped together and i don't think any of them even threw a tantrum before they died and everyone was happy before that. way in the begining there was also one lone dwarf that wouldn't eat or drink who wasn't insane either and eventually died... i'll keep playing and wait for it to happen again if it does i'll put that save so you can see it in action and maybe it's something weird i did....

don't worry i'll keep playing till it happens again >:]

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-21 18:19 Halex New Issue
2010-04-21 18:51 Naros Note Added: 0004529
2010-04-21 18:52 Naros Note Edited: 0004529
2010-04-21 18:53 Naros Note Edited: 0004529
2010-04-21 19:55 Halex Note Added: 0004531
2010-04-21 20:26 Kennel Tag Attached: water
2010-04-21 20:26 Kennel Tag Attached: dehydration
2010-04-22 00:37 user6 Note Added: 0004555
2010-04-22 02:10 snow Note Added: 0004564
2010-04-22 07:32 Halex Note Added: 0004593
2010-04-22 07:37 Halex Note Edited: 0004593
2010-04-22 07:38 Halex Note Edited: 0004593
2010-04-22 10:15 Halex Note Edited: 0004593
2010-04-22 10:29 user6 Note Added: 0004613
2010-04-22 13:57 Halex Note Added: 0004632
2010-04-22 15:27 user6 Note Added: 0004640
2010-04-22 16:58 Halex Note Added: 0004652
2010-04-22 18:28 user6 Note Added: 0004658
2010-04-22 19:24 Halex Note Added: 0004661
2010-04-22 19:30 Halex Note Edited: 0004661
2010-04-22 21:54 user6 Note Added: 0004674
2010-04-23 07:00 Halex Note Added: 0004707
2010-04-23 07:12 Halex Note Edited: 0004707
2010-04-30 16:40 Logical2u Category Adventure Mode -- Eating/Drinking => Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Eating/Drinking
2010-04-30 16:40 Logical2u Summary Dwarves dying => Dwarves refuse to use water zones, wells - save included
2010-04-30 16:40 Logical2u Description Updated
2010-07-13 05:57 user6 Relationship added duplicate of 0001007
2010-07-13 05:57 user6 Status new => resolved
2010-07-13 05:57 user6 Resolution open => duplicate
2010-07-13 05:57 user6 Assigned To => user6