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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000219 | Dwarf Fortress | Reactions | public | 2010-04-02 19:51 | 2011-03-10 17:39 |
| Reporter | shadow_slicer | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | major | Reproducibility | have not tried |
| Status | resolved | Resolution | duplicate | ||
| Platform | Ubuntu (using Wine) | OS | Linux | OS Version | 2.6.31-20 |
| Summary | 0000219: Smelting reaction ingredients/products change during gameplay, possibly Wine-specific | ||||
| Description | This issue has effected both forts I have started so far. 1. I set up a smelter and start smelting coal into coke. After a while, the smelter no longer lists the option to add another smelting job. If the job already exists in the queue or you add it via the job manager it would continue smelting. 2. In the first fort, in addition to the first problem, I bought some Cassiterite off of the caravan and started smelting it into tin. I saved and quit, and then continued on another computer. When I continued, the cassiterite ore was smelted into cassiterite bars instead of tin bars =/. 3. In the second fort, after I smelted some iron bars, I tried to smelt pig iron and steel bars, but they were absent from the smelter list. I added the jobs via the job manager and it reported that it couldn't be completed because smelting pig iron requires 150 black zircon bars ???. It also said this for smelting steel. As far as I know I had all the required materials to make pig iron: iron bars, tons limestone, and at least 10 charcoal. 4. Later in the second fort, I had already lost the ability to add smelting coal to the smelter, and was relying on a repeating order and jobs added to the job manager to smelt coal. I played for several hours like this, but eventually received the message "cancels make coke from bituminous coal: Needs platinum". | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | ??? | ||||
| Additional Information | Problems with bituminous coal and lignite are 0000332, which is not Wine-specific. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
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screenshots of parts 3 and 4: http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~bhamilton3/pigiron.png http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~bhamilton3/platinum.png Also, before step 1 occurred, I encountered issue 0000025 (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=25), so there is some chance it may be related. |
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is it possible the recipe for steel has changed ? |
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...to require 150 black zircon bars? |
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Sounds like the raws may have gotten corrupted - back in 0.28.181.40d, adding/removing stuff without clearing out data/objects would often result in stuff like this ("olon Udilmat, Woodcutter cancels Make Coke From Bituminous Coal: Needs black opal."), but in 0.31 the game seems to not keep the precompiled raws around anymore. Does the situation improve if you save, exit, and reload? |
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I had part (1) happen midway through a fort just now. No modified raws. Bituminous coal and lignite are now considered an "other" stone (see 0000332), I cannot add them to the smelter, and there are no reactions listed for them under the 'z'/Stone screen (usually it'll list the "make coke" reactions there) |
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Save/exit/reload didn't help. |
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If you found a large amount of flux (possibly ore too) in 40d it would set itself to be available (green) in the z - stone menu. The z - stone menu now has all stone in it (except obsidian), not just metal and economics, try going here and setting it back to red if necessary. |
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This appears to be a Wine-induced bug. My fortress was started under Windows and played for a while. Later, I copied it to my linux install and played it under Wine. Then I noticed the reaction problems. If I go back to the original save from Windows and play it under Windows, the reactions are correct. If I take a fresh copy of that identical save and load it under Wine, the reactions are broken immediately on load. Guessing there is some problem with parsing the raws that only triggers when the wine libraries are used.. |
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Perhaps this problem is caused by switching between Wine and XP? For my first fort (started under Wine), it worked correctly under Wine, but then started having problems on XP. For the second fort (started under XP), it worked fine under XP, but then started having problems after switching to Wine. I tested the save from the first fort (from before switching to XP) and the save from the second fort (from before switching to Wine) under Wine. The problem is not present for the first fort, but is for the second fort. |
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I had this problem when I played under wine, then scp'd the entire dwarf fortress folder to another linux computer, where I tried playing (under wine again). I tried preserving file permissions, and that didn't help. |
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@Creidieki: Did you generate the fortress under XP or on Linux? My current hypothesis is that switching from Wine to XP or vice versa causes this. It would be nice to have evidence either way. |
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I just played on wine. No windows involved. I too have the problem of strange output-goods... iron mugs producing some siltstone mugs instead etc. |
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shadow_slicer: Both of the computers involved were 64-bit Linux computers running Ubuntu. They may have been running different versions of wine, or differently-configured versions of wine; I'll try to check on that when I get home. |
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It's most definitely not a Wine bug. I'm playing on WiXP32, and I had about the same thing happen WRT bituminous coal and lignite in a non-burrowed smelter. When I add the jobs via manager, I would get "Urist McSmelter cancels Make coal from Lignite - needs rock." I can still make steel with charcoal though. Saving and reloading did nothing. Edit: cross posted in 0000332 with some more information. |
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The thing with bituminous coal and lignite is 0000332, which may or may not be related. I have a vague suspicion this has something to do with inconsistent handling of underscores/spaces in raw tokens: - PLATINUM comes immediately after PIG_IRON, the first metal with an underscore in the name - BLACK ZIRCON comes after QUARTZ_ROSE and CRYSTAL_ROCK, which are the first gems to use underscores However I can't find anything special about CASSITERITE, OPAL_BLACK and SILTSTONE. More testing is needed. If you get this bug, please make sure to report your OS and which precise material got substituted for which. |
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trying to make pig iron tells me i need 150 chrysoberyl bars. wine v1.1.42 I am going to try turning off compress saves and see if that helps. |
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turning off compress saves didn't help. new fort wanted sandstone bars for pig iron and steel. |
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Same issue with wine. The reactions are getting corrupted. I was switching back and forth to XP and Linux and reactions are corrupted/recovered again and again. However, I can't find clue what exactly recovers them (making some specific actions on XP and saving?). |
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Loaded under windows => everything is fine. I think, it is a memory corruption that is either: 1) occurs only under wine 2) under wine it hits the reactions due to the different memory layout. Under windows the corruption hits something else, not visible (?) |
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Someone somewhere on the forum mentioned that the order in which reactions and materials are loaded seem to affect things, i.e. moving a material from one file to another might cause corruption. I'm thinking that this might relate to MS Windows and Wine returning lists of files in different order, so when DF searches the raws directory for materials and reactions, it finds them in different order on MS Windows and Wine, and this causes the corruption. I haven't actually tested this hypothesis. |
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Tested 0.31.4 (Linux version) => reactions seems to work fine. |
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Pig iron & steel seems to be ok, but bitumnous coal now requires chromite. So this is still an issue in 0.31.04 |
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Problems with bituminous coal and lignite are 0000332, which is not Wine-specific. |
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Is anyone experiencing this problem in 31.04? (NOT the coal/lignite problems, which are 0000332) |
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(edit: moved to the correct bug report) |
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Again: Problems with bituminous coal and lignite are 0000332, which is not Wine-specific. |
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Still occuring in 31.05 in the native Linux version - adamantine wafer creation is missing from smelters, adding the jobs through the manager tells me that "15000 gypsum plaster thread" are needed to make them. |
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Leperous, if that problem continues to happen after a save/load, you should definitely upload your save to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ |
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Hrm, just realised this is a reclaim on an old save (perhaps from 31.02) despite copying over the new RAW folder. Since it's not happening on fresh embarks I'll chalk it up to that for now, and repost if it pops up again. |
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If you use windows saves in linux version you got weird errors. Like, need sand to make pig iron. Linux native 31.05 works fine (fedora 13 x86_64), steel making and coke making works fine. Don't know about adamantine yet |
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Okay, we'll chalk this up to Wine issues. Hopefully it'll never show up again now that there's a native Linux version. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2010-04-02 19:51 | shadow_slicer | New Issue | |
| 2010-04-02 19:54 | shadow_slicer | Note Added: 0000380 | |
| 2010-04-02 19:59 | DoctorZuber | Note Added: 0000383 | |
| 2010-04-02 21:06 | Asmodeous | Note Added: 0000410 | |
| 2010-04-02 21:20 | Quietust | Note Added: 0000417 | |
| 2010-04-02 21:20 | Quietust | Note Edited: 0000417 | |
| 2010-04-03 17:29 | oliver | Note Added: 0000721 | |
| 2010-04-03 17:33 | oliver | Note Added: 0000722 | |
| 2010-04-03 17:33 | DoctorZuber | Note Added: 0000723 | |
| 2010-04-03 17:35 | DoctorZuber | Note Edited: 0000723 | |
| 2010-04-03 17:40 | DoctorZuber | Note Edited: 0000723 | |
| 2010-04-03 17:47 | oliver | Note Added: 0000726 | |
| 2010-04-03 17:48 | oliver | Note Edited: 0000726 | |
| 2010-04-04 00:19 | shadow_slicer | Note Added: 0000808 | |
| 2010-04-04 00:22 | shadow_slicer | Note Edited: 0000808 | |
| 2010-04-09 19:26 | Creidieki | Note Added: 0002493 | |
| 2010-04-09 19:59 | shadow_slicer | Note Added: 0002494 | |
| 2010-04-10 13:12 | Lesconrads | Note Added: 0002629 | |
| 2010-04-13 07:27 | Creidieki | Note Added: 0003251 | |
| 2010-04-26 08:59 | CptFastbreak | Note Added: 0005125 | |
| 2010-04-26 10:45 |
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Note Added: 0005142 | |
| 2010-04-26 10:45 |
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Note Edited: 0005142 | |
| 2010-04-26 10:45 |
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Note Edited: 0005142 | |
| 2010-04-26 10:46 |
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Relationship added | parent of 0000332 |
| 2010-04-28 09:17 | CptFastbreak | Note Edited: 0005125 | |
| 2010-04-28 13:55 |
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Category | General => Reactions |
| 2010-04-29 09:21 | snooptodd | Note Added: 0005665 | |
| 2010-05-07 08:47 | snooptodd | Note Added: 0006361 | |
| 2010-05-07 10:33 |
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Relationship replaced | related to 0000332 |
| 2010-05-07 10:34 |
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Summary | Smelting reaction ingredients/products change during gameplay => Smelting reaction ingredients/products change during gameplay, possibly Wine-specific |
| 2010-05-15 22:53 | WFrag | Note Added: 0006748 | |
| 2010-05-15 23:29 | WFrag | Note Added: 0006749 | |
| 2010-05-16 02:59 | jfs | Note Added: 0006757 | |
| 2010-05-16 21:21 | WFrag | Note Added: 0006843 | |
| 2010-05-16 23:35 | WFrag | Note Added: 0006853 | |
| 2010-05-16 23:51 |
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Note Added: 0006854 | |
| 2010-05-16 23:53 |
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Additional Information Updated | |
| 2010-06-03 12:20 |
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Note Added: 0007626 | |
| 2010-06-03 12:21 |
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Note Edited: 0007626 | |
| 2010-06-03 12:21 |
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Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE | |
| 2010-06-04 15:48 | Eskarion | Note Added: 0007682 | |
| 2010-06-04 17:20 |
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Note Added: 0007684 | |
| 2010-06-05 03:10 | Eskarion | Note Edited: 0007682 | |
| 2010-06-06 11:44 | Leperous | Note Added: 0007812 | |
| 2010-06-06 11:46 |
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Note Added: 0007813 | |
| 2010-06-06 12:01 | Leperous | Note Added: 0007814 | |
| 2010-06-06 12:05 | Leperous | Note Edited: 0007814 | |
| 2010-06-06 12:17 | Cel | Note Added: 0007817 | |
| 2010-06-22 09:17 |
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Note Added: 0008958 | |
| 2010-06-22 09:17 |
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Status | new => resolved |
| 2010-06-22 09:17 |
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Resolution | open => not fixable |
| 2010-06-22 09:17 |
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Assigned To | => user6 |
| 2010-06-30 22:26 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0002483 |
| 2010-07-01 20:35 |
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Relationship replaced | duplicate of 0000332 |
| 2010-07-01 20:35 |
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Resolution | not fixable => duplicate |
| 2010-08-10 00:12 |
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Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE |
