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0002444Dwarf FortressMap Featurespublic2024-10-18 11:01
Reportercognitive Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status newResolutionopen 
PlatformpcOSvista sp2 
Product Version0.31.06 
Summary0002444: after discovering lava sea it continues to reveal downwards, hitting/discovering adamantine all on its own
Descriptionstarting a new fort i dug as deep as a could pretty quick. i hit a magama pool soon enough but strangely after about 2 minutes t said i discovered a magma sea, 20 minutes later i have discovered adamantine at level 123, about 40 levels below the original magma pool with no further mining
Steps To Reproducedig to a magma pool, watch the map get revealed downwards
Additional Informationstarting a .08 game tomorrow and doing the same thing
TagsIntentional/Expected?

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user6

2010-06-24 22:12

  ~0009074

Last edited: 2010-06-24 22:12

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev_2009.html#2009-04-03
"I also think I'll be able to update discovery/revealing of the local underground so that it depends more on where your dwarves have actually been, instead of revealing everything. Active LOS around every dwarf isn't feasible, but it can push the frontier off through the connected areas when a dwarf is vaguely nearby, anyway, so that there can be enormous connected (adventure-explorable) caverns without having them pre-revealed just because you have some dwarves tinkering around far, far above."

Could that new feature explain what you saw?

cognitive

2010-06-25 10:28

reporter   ~0009092

yes and no, i have a hallway/stairway going down about 60 levels to lava. the caverns are not being discovered till i mine close to them in the yx direction. the lava self discovered 60+layers in the z without any extra z movement by the dwarves. starting the .08 game now

cognitive

2010-06-26 23:02

reporter   ~0009157

this might just be a tweak issue, still trying to find lava in my new fort :p

user6

2010-06-27 19:47

  ~0009185

the caverns are not being discovered till i mine close to them in the yx direction. the lava self discovered 60+layers in the z without any extra z movement by the dwarves.

Yeah, this is probably expected behavior, judging by the "vaguely nearby" part of the post I quoted.

DoctorZuber

2010-06-27 23:17

reporter   ~0009194

does seem a bit quirky though if you can "reveal" more of a cave structure / magma sea by mining out stuff completely unconnected to it 60 z levels above it... Assuming I'm understanding what he's saying correctly.

cognitive

2010-06-28 00:58

reporter   ~0009203

i wasnt even mining at the time, i was having a troll wreck all my magma smelters.

at 200 -z levels wheres that magma...

ptb_ptb

2015-01-16 12:10

reporter   ~0031969

If something falls into the magma, as is very likely when a magma smelter is destroyed, it can function as a 'scout' as seen in the wiki

"You can instantly discover a magma sea and adamantine if you simply cause a magma-safe cave-in somewhere above the lava. This can be accomplished by creating a floor, then creating a floor out from there with magma safe material, like obsidian. Remove the supporting floor so the obsidian will drop into the magma, and it will never melt, allowing you to use it as a "scout" to find veins of adamantine and a magma sea."

pelleeroevraren

2024-10-18 10:31

reporter   ~0042401

I have a couple saves before and after a 'further' reveal like this. Some of the Magma's been revealed for a while already, and I thought Water pouring onto the Lava caused the further reveal, but a Stone or such may have gotten pushed along with it.

https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=17224
https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=17225

There's only a day passed inbetween the saves.

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Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-06-23 00:15 cognitive New Issue
2010-06-24 22:12 user6 Note Added: 0009074
2010-06-24 22:12 user6 Note Edited: 0009074
2010-06-24 22:12 user6 Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-06-25 10:28 cognitive Note Added: 0009092
2010-06-26 23:02 cognitive Note Added: 0009157
2010-06-27 19:46 user6 Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-06-27 19:47 user6 Note Added: 0009185
2010-06-27 19:47 user6 Tag Attached: Intentional?
2010-06-27 23:17 DoctorZuber Note Added: 0009194
2010-06-28 00:58 cognitive Note Added: 0009203
2010-07-12 12:03 user6 Tag Renamed Intentional? => Intentional/Expected?
2015-01-16 12:10 ptb_ptb Note Added: 0031969
2024-10-18 10:31 pelleeroevraren Note Added: 0042401