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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0002828 | Dwarf Fortress | Pathfinding | public | 2010-07-25 10:46 | 2012-02-21 07:48 |
| Reporter | Syndic | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | major | Reproducibility | have not tried |
| Status | resolved | Resolution | no change required | ||
| Product Version | 0.31.11 | ||||
| Summary | 0002828: dwarves don't find a path if they have to walk over a ramp | ||||
| Description | I had a situation where the only path back to the rest of the fort for my mason would lead over a row of ramps to the level below. Said ramps were useable, the miner ran up and down them without any problems. The mason just stood there, getting thirsty... hungry... dehydrated... then I told him to build a floor over one of the ramp tiles, he did that, and scampered off to the booze stockpile. | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | dig a row of ramps over a hallway, get one dwarf stuck on one side and give him reason to try to get to the other side | ||||
| Additional Information | just noticed 31.12 is out, but the forum thread doesn't say anything about pathfinding so I assume the bug will still exist there. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| duplicate of | 0001765 | resolved | Ramps without an adjacent wall are unusable |
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hmm, this might not be 100% clear... the ramps lead to the level below, but the dwarf should have pathed to the same level, just on the other side of the row of ramps |
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Can you upload some screenshots or make a diagram of how your ramps were laid out? Sometimes you can end up with seemingly buggy configurations. |
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Also, when a dwarf gets stuck, do they remain stuck after a save/load? Were you building or removing any ramps/walls/floors nearby when the mason got stuck? If not, then he shouldn't have pathed there, regardless of whether the ramps were unusable. It's possible you accidentally created a one-way ramp, although I don't know whether that bug is still around: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/40d:One-way |
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The setup was as follows: X wall _ floor V downward ramp (with a wall on the southern end, so not free-floating ramps) O Dwarf XXXXXXX X_____X X__O__X X_____X XVVVVVX X_____X X_____X With the rest of the Fort down here. As far as I can tell, this isn't a setup that should allow a one-way ramp. I didn't try saving and loading, and yes I was constructing walls there at the time to clean up my layout. As an added note, my miner just failed to path back up a different ramp after digging - he dug the ramp, then dug a tunnel down there, then didn't get back up. Not sure if that's related or a separate bug though. I wasn't constructing anything near said miner at the time. /edit since the font isn't unispace /edit2 for clarification on new issue: The miner would've had to use single-tile ramps, my multi-tile ramps in other parts of the fortress (including the one that trapped the mason) work fine for going up and down... |
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update: (at least single-tile) Ramps seem to have trouble with pathfinding indeed... my mason just starved after blocking his only non-ramp path by constructing a screw pump from the wrong side >_> layout: X wall _ floor V downward ramp P Screwpump (blocking tile) O Dwarf (standing on non-blocking tile of screwpump) X_X X_X XPX XOX XVX XXX There was a way to the rest of the fortress by going down that ramp, then going up again someplace else (both by ramp or stairs - I had built stairs after my miner got trapped down there) |
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Just to make sure: you've checked that all your ramps are supported properly? http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Ramp#Using_Ramps |
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For clarification: is there a wall on the NORTH side of the ramps (in the first picture)? For example, if your ramps look like this from the side _____...__O___ ####V_______ Won't work. Has to be a wall on the side of the ramp you're going up or down. You can have as many walls as you want adjacent to a ramp, though, and you can use the ramp to traverse any of them. |
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oh... then that was the issue. stupid me. should've visualized it better. there was no wall on the southern side, no. The issue with single-tile ramps was the same. please close this >_> |
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Alright, cool. The game really should do a better job of telling you whether a ramp is unusable... might be worth making a suggestion. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2010-07-25 10:46 | Syndic | New Issue | |
| 2010-07-25 10:47 | Syndic | Note Added: 0010981 | |
| 2010-07-25 11:19 | Logical2u | Note Added: 0010986 | |
| 2010-07-25 11:32 |
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Note Added: 0010989 | |
| 2010-07-25 11:35 |
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Note Edited: 0010989 | |
| 2010-07-25 12:03 | Syndic | Note Added: 0010998 | |
| 2010-07-25 12:04 | Syndic | Note Edited: 0010998 | |
| 2010-07-25 12:04 | Syndic | Note Edited: 0010998 | |
| 2010-07-25 12:05 | Syndic | Note Edited: 0010998 | |
| 2010-07-25 12:09 | Syndic | Note Edited: 0010998 | |
| 2010-07-26 02:23 | Syndic | Note Added: 0011063 | |
| 2010-07-26 05:56 |
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Note Added: 0011070 | |
| 2010-07-26 06:20 | Untelligent | Note Added: 0011072 | |
| 2010-07-26 06:20 | Untelligent | Note Edited: 0011072 | |
| 2010-07-26 06:21 | Untelligent | Note Edited: 0011072 | |
| 2010-07-26 12:39 | Syndic | Note Added: 0011092 | |
| 2010-07-26 12:56 |
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Note Added: 0011096 | |
| 2010-07-26 12:56 |
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Status | new => resolved |
| 2010-07-26 12:56 |
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Resolution | open => no change required |
| 2010-07-26 12:56 |
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Assigned To | => user6 |
| 2010-07-26 12:56 |
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Note Edited: 0011096 | |
| 2012-02-21 07:48 |
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Relationship added | duplicate of 0001765 |
