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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0003198 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcare | public | 2010-09-10 17:07 | 2013-09-22 18:12 |
| Reporter | Gentle Manne | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | have not tried |
| Status | new | Resolution | open | ||
| OS | Windows XP | OS Version | 2002, SP 2 | ||
| Product Version | 0.31.12 | ||||
| Summary | 0003198: Surgeons initiate surgery but never perform | ||||
| Description | A patient requires surgery, and a dedicated surgeon as well as some others will occasionally move the patient from her bed to an adjacent table and give it a go. Their general description will list "surgery" as their current job. This never lasts for very long and it always ends with the patient being carried to a bed with no progress made. Looking at the patient's health status, I see that each attempt puts an entry under the history section. The entry is gray and it lists the name of the attempting surgeon and the date. Whereas the entry should "normally" say what was done (eg. when the chief medical dwarf diagnoses someone, it will be a white entry in the history that says "evaluated"), these gray entries have this field blank. The patient has pages of these pseudo-entries now. Even though it says their current job is surgery, their skill is never exercised. Dwarfs who have never done surgery do not become dabbling, and my dedicated surgeon has in fact become rusty at surgery during this ordeal. | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | Set up a hospital with beds and tables and everything arranged appropriately, and have a dwarf sustain an injury that requires surgery. | ||||
| Additional Information | This has happened with two dwarf patients, one of whom ended up dying of infection, and several surgeons of various skill, the highest being talented. I haven't tried reproducing this behavior in a new fortress. The patient also needs bone setting, suturing, etc. but these other tasks are being ignored while surgery is required. | ||||
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In what version was this fort generated? |
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Are you getting "Urist McFleshcarver cancels Surgery: Patient not resting"? If so, the workaround I was told to use is to remove all tables and traction benches from the hospital. The surgeons will then operate on the patients while they're still in bed. |
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It's all from 0.31.12, and no, there are no cancellation announcements. All the dwarfs acted like it was normal. The operation was eventually successful. After sixty or so gray entries in the medical history section, they were five white entries stating she was carried to bed. She probably got restless and tried to crawl away. (In fact, she DID crawl away a year earlier when she was taken by a fey mood.) But finally there was a red entry for the surgery, followed by being carried to bed several more times, then a re-evaluation from another dwarf, and finally suturing and the other required operations. |
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I can confirm this in 0.31.12, while I don't have a save to demonstrate it has happened several times. Each time I've had to wait for the doctor and patient to be alone in the hospital and then lock all the doors for them to complete surgery uninterrupted. No cancellation messages are generated since the job was not canceled, rather the dwarf was moved and is still "resting" since they are put straight back into a hospital bed. |
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do you have a save during these events for testing? |
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No, because I suck and I don't know where to find save files. I'll do that next time. |
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I disabled the "recovering wounded" labor on all of my dwarves, and I've had numerous surgeries complete (using operating tables) without incident. |
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Okay, it's happening again so I uploaded a save. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3103 |
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I can confirm, this happens when surgery goes on a table. Someone comes and "resques wounded", cancelling the surgery. Any workaround will do: no tables in hospital, no recover wounded jobs, sometimes i just forbid the doors in hospital as some doctors are in ;) But this is a bug, yes. |
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Okay, I can confirm the above comments. If the surgeon has "recover wounded" enabled, he'll stop the surgery to move the patient to the bed without a cancellation message. If he doesn't, someone else will "recover" the patient and the surgeon will give the "patient not resting" cancellation message. I tried locking the doors during the surgery and Urist McUnhelpful gave the cancellation message for the recover wounded job, and the surgeon was able to work in peace. (Still using 0.31.12) |
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Confirmed still occurring in 0.31.18; can provide save, if needed. |
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I also get same problem in 0.31.18, the solution is to remove all tables in your hospital, thanks to Manslay's comment I figured out that when the surgeon carries patient to the table, the patient is no longer at rest even if it says he's at rest. Anybody trying fix this issue or should this "do surgery on bed instead of table" become the new dwarven surgery method. (Edit: all my dwarves that got injured and needed surgery are compound fracture to the spine, don't know about surgeries need for internal organs and such, maybe operations that requires a large dagger will need a table 'cause it get messy?) |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2010-09-10 17:07 | Gentle Manne | New Issue | |
| 2010-09-10 17:35 | Logical2u | Note Added: 0012567 | |
| 2010-09-10 17:35 | Logical2u | Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE | |
| 2010-09-10 17:47 | greycat | Note Added: 0012568 | |
| 2010-09-10 18:30 | Gentle Manne | Note Added: 0012569 | |
| 2010-09-10 18:32 | Gentle Manne | Note Edited: 0012569 | |
| 2010-09-10 18:45 | FifthHorseman | Note Added: 0012570 | |
| 2010-09-10 18:45 | FifthHorseman | Note Edited: 0012570 | |
| 2010-09-11 05:24 | Cryten | Note Added: 0012576 | |
| 2010-09-11 11:25 | Gentle Manne | Note Added: 0012585 | |
| 2010-09-11 13:14 | Quietust | Note Added: 0012587 | |
| 2010-09-12 18:39 | Gentle Manne | Note Added: 0012603 | |
| 2010-09-30 01:10 | Manslay | Note Added: 0013079 | |
| 2010-10-03 20:48 | Gentle Manne | Note Added: 0013176 | |
| 2010-10-03 20:50 | Gentle Manne | Note Edited: 0013176 | |
| 2011-01-31 11:04 | hyperactiveChipmunk | Note Added: 0014956 | |
| 2011-02-09 12:35 | tiefblau | Note Added: 0015073 | |
| 2011-02-09 12:39 | tiefblau | Note Edited: 0015073 | |
| 2013-09-22 18:06 |
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| 2013-09-22 18:12 |
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Relationship added | related to 0002773 |
