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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0007111Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Skills and Professionspublic2014-08-02 05:26
ReporterJiman Assigned Touser11 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status acknowledgedResolutionopen 
Product Version0.40.02 
Summary0007111: My Dwarves are leveling skills to near Legendary before the first year is over.
DescriptionMy Miners and my stonecrafters are reaching near legendary levels before the first year is over. I was told this may have to do with "job speeds and movement speeds finally separating entirely" but not correctly balanced in terms of job speed.

I am also noticing that I am able to get done a lot more in a shorter time span... which would go along with the job speed theory again.
Steps To ReproducePlay Dwarf Fortress in fortress mode, observe rate and speed of jobs and skill progression.
Tagshaste, progression, speed, time

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related to 0007588 resolvedToady One Social skill gains by attending parties is off the charts 

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Rafal99

2014-07-11 22:32

reporter   ~0025941

Miners seem faster indeed.
In previous version they could reach Legendary in second year.

Now I have legendary miner in late Summer of the first year.

newjrmint15

2014-07-11 23:56

reporter   ~0025947

i always felt as though my miners were legendary first year even in the previous version. not so much on all other jobs though.

Jiman

2014-07-14 09:12

reporter   ~0026325

in .40.03 this does still occur. My fortress is far past what it should be and it isn't even fall yet in the first year.

accursedCursive

2014-07-15 00:48

reporter   ~0026437

Miner levels up exceptionally quickly because of how generous the exp is, and the fact that although more exp is required for higher levels, exp is gained much faster at later levels as he rapidly increases in speed.
Also, there are many attributes that increase mining speed and therefore exp gain; check http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Attribute and see how good your miner's attributes that affect mining are.

Jiman

2014-07-15 12:46

reporter   ~0026522

It isn't just mining itself, its all skills that I have observed so far.

ToadyOne already made a comment of what could be causing this, "There's a generic "job" move that functions as a throttle for job completion, but there are places that avoid that."
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140544.msg5475034#msg5475034

cephalo

2014-07-15 12:56

reporter   ~0026524

It's interesting. There was a problem in previous versions where doctors would always lose all of their doctor skills eventually, because it wasn't feasible to injure enough dwarves to keep skill decay from happening.

Could this be the consequence of an attempt to fix that?

Jiman

2014-08-01 22:27

reporter   ~0028126

It seems that in .40.05 this issue has lessen somewhat. I have a Theory what could of caused this increased time issue I encountered.

Currently the game takes time every month I believe to calculate and do troop movements on the map (2 weeks.) Toady One said this takes about 20 seconds before and now it only takes about 10 seconds. Maybe during play the consequence of this occurring is that you (the player) would get 20 seconds extra as the game calculated and did these troop movements.

That would mean that every year you get 4 minutes extra time to do stuff you want to do. Now it should be less then 2 minutes extra time vs .34.11.

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Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2014-07-11 21:29 Jiman New Issue
2014-07-11 22:32 Rafal99 Note Added: 0025941
2014-07-11 23:56 newjrmint15 Note Added: 0025947
2014-07-14 09:12 Jiman Note Added: 0026325
2014-07-14 09:14 Jiman Tag Attached: time
2014-07-14 09:14 Jiman Tag Attached: haste
2014-07-14 09:14 Jiman Tag Attached: progression
2014-07-14 09:14 Jiman Tag Attached: speed
2014-07-15 00:48 accursedCursive Note Added: 0026437
2014-07-15 12:46 Jiman Note Added: 0026522
2014-07-15 12:56 cephalo Note Added: 0026524
2014-07-23 15:28 user6 Relationship added related to 0007588
2014-08-01 22:27 Jiman Note Added: 0028126
2014-08-02 05:26 user11 Assigned To => user11
2014-08-02 05:26 user11 Status new => acknowledged