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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0010528 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Item Improvements/Decorations | public | 2018-01-15 20:14 | 2018-01-17 13:32 |
| Reporter | Cincotta1 | Assigned To | Loci | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | have not tried |
| Status | confirmed | Resolution | open | ||
| Platform | mac | OS | High Sierra | OS Version | 10.13.2 |
| Product Version | 0.44.05 | ||||
| Summary | 0010528: Dwarves create statues of historical figures using events that the dwarves have no knowledge of | ||||
| Description | Problem observed in masons workshop, metalsmith's forge, and craftdwarves workshop for statues and figurines. Requesting, via the [d]etails menu, that the image be of deity in the historical figures list results in random statue image, not the requested one. Other historical figures seem to work properly. May be related to advanced world gen param "reveal all historical events" being set to no. | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | Generate world with history hidden and start fortress mode in vanilla df Observe which deities are worshipped by dwarves Order statue be made at mason workshop In [d]etails, specify image, related to historical figure, and choose a worshipped deity from list Observe finished statue is not of deity | ||||
| Tags | Intentional/Expected? | ||||
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Check the description of the statue. If it is listed as a statue of [random historical figure] instead of a statue of [deity], it should show that historical figure *interacting* with said deity. See kneaugh's explanation here: 0010498 |
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The statues I have made all depict elves writing manuscripts rather than interacting with the dwarven deity, though kneaugh's work-around works. Thanks |
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Were those elves writing the manuscripts to glorify the deity? That can happen during world generation, where a bard will create a work dedicated to a deity that is not their own. Usually, said deity is worshiped in the civilization that founded the site where the bard is currently living, If not, your hypothesis about "reveal all historical events" may well be correct. |
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I can find the authors and the sites claimed using the 'specific image' menus, but cannot find the works in those menus or in the civ screen artifact list. Three of the titles follow the form "The Sun Sets on ____" and the others are titled "Delight and the Freckle" and "We See Bottoms", all of which follow forms of similar titles for plays, novels, short stories which "have no particular subject." |
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You should upload a save of your game to http://dffd.bay12games.com. That way, others (particularly the bug tracker managers) will be able to see the behavior that you have described for themselves. |
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Yes, please upload a save demonstrating this issue to DFFD and post a link here. |
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I have uploaded a .zip of the save on the forum here: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13434. The save should open to a room with the defective items dumped on the floor under a figurine. |
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From an xml dump of Legends from your save, I determined that "We See Bottoms" was written to glorify Ad. "The Sun Sets on Race" and "The Sun Sets on Trances" were written to glorify Zutthan, another dwarven god that you likely requested historical images of. It could be considered a bug that dwarves will depict events that relate to the chosen subject in ways the dwarves don't comprehend, or it could be thought of as the god guiding the dwarf's hand in mystical ways to depict an event the dwarf had no earthly knowledge of. In the latter case, it would be nice if the title of the work was adjusted to cite the historical figure, e.g. "statue glorifying Ad" instead of "statue of (random elf)". |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2018-01-15 20:14 | Cincotta1 | New Issue | |
| 2018-01-15 20:25 | Huntthetroll | Note Added: 0037633 | |
| 2018-01-15 20:25 | Huntthetroll | Note Edited: 0037633 | |
| 2018-01-15 20:53 | Cincotta1 | Note Added: 0037636 | |
| 2018-01-16 09:19 | Huntthetroll | Note Added: 0037645 | |
| 2018-01-16 19:53 | Cincotta1 | Note Added: 0037648 | |
| 2018-01-16 20:47 | Huntthetroll | Note Added: 0037649 | |
| 2018-01-17 09:10 | Loci | Note Added: 0037652 | |
| 2018-01-17 09:10 | Loci | Assigned To | => Loci |
| 2018-01-17 09:10 | Loci | Status | new => feedback |
| 2018-01-17 11:29 | Cincotta1 | Note Added: 0037653 | |
| 2018-01-17 11:29 | Cincotta1 | Status | feedback => assigned |
| 2018-01-17 13:15 | Loci | Note Added: 0037656 | |
| 2018-01-17 13:15 | Loci | Status | assigned => confirmed |
| 2018-01-17 13:15 | Loci | Summary | Dwarves ignore detailed orders for statues of deities => Dwarves create statues of events involving historical figures that the dwarves have no knowlege of |
| 2018-01-17 13:16 | Loci | Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected? | |
| 2018-01-17 13:17 | Loci | Summary | Dwarves create statues of events involving historical figures that the dwarves have no knowlege of => Dwarves create statues of historical figures using events that the dwarves have no knowlege of |
| 2018-01-17 13:32 | Loci | Summary | Dwarves create statues of historical figures using events that the dwarves have no knowlege of => Dwarves create statues of historical figures using events that the dwarves have no knowledge of |
| 2018-05-24 18:22 | Loci | Relationship added | has duplicate 0010770 |
