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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0001110 | Dwarf Fortress | Items | public | 2010-04-13 16:53 | 2010-07-20 12:59 |
| Reporter | Syndic | Assigned To | Toady One | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | major | Reproducibility | have not tried |
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 0.31.03 | ||||
| Fixed in Version | 0.31.09 | ||||
| Summary | 0001110: impact yield and impact fracture the same for all metals, unbalances combat | ||||
| Description | As the summary says, impact_yield and impact_fracture are the same (1080000, stainless steel) for all metals. This means non-steel armor protects too good, and nonsteel weapons are too strong. For details on the impact this has, see here: http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=53571.msg1153120#msg1153120 | ||||
| Additional Information | My own information is purely based on the raws, this forum post and observations during gameplay. I did not do any tests that included changing those values myself. | ||||
| Tags | material, metal, raw files | ||||
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I did a bit of research on what these values should be, and determined that for metals compressive strength ~= tensile strength. I copy/pasted the shear yield and fracture values into the impact yield and fracture tags, and arena mode showed this to be far more reasonable. Forum post: http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=53571.msg1169077#msg1169077 |
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There have been a couple of threads discussing proper raw values, most notably these: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=55348 http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=53100 |
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While I'm infodumping, there's a useful thread with test results from arena. It describes several other material and combat related issues: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=52120.0 |
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I've updated all the metals so that they have Dwarfoloid's suggested values, and I've made compression/impact a fixed multiple of the tensile strength (because it was generally higher for iron, and there's very little data available). |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2010-04-13 16:53 | Syndic | New Issue | |
| 2010-04-13 16:54 | Syndic | Tag Attached: material | |
| 2010-04-13 16:54 | Syndic | Tag Attached: raw files | |
| 2010-04-19 06:44 | Todestool | Note Added: 0004221 | |
| 2010-06-08 16:14 |
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Sticky Issue | No => Yes |
| 2010-06-20 08:57 | Jiri Petru | Note Added: 0008772 | |
| 2010-06-20 09:13 |
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Relationship added | related to 0000033 |
| 2010-06-20 17:12 | Jiri Petru | Note Added: 0008818 | |
| 2010-07-06 02:03 | Toady One | Note Added: 0009672 | |
| 2010-07-06 02:03 | Toady One | Status | new => resolved |
| 2010-07-06 02:03 | Toady One | Fixed in Version | => 0.31.09 |
| 2010-07-06 02:03 | Toady One | Resolution | open => fixed |
| 2010-07-06 02:03 | Toady One | Assigned To | => Toady One |
| 2010-07-10 05:55 | TomiTapio | Tag Attached: metal | |
| 2010-07-12 12:53 |
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Sticky Issue | Yes => No |
