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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0001623 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Thoughts and Preferences | public | 2010-04-28 19:46 | 2015-09-17 23:52 |
| Reporter | Sirocco | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | low | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | random |
| Status | confirmed | Resolution | open | ||
| Product Version | 0.31.03 | ||||
| Summary | 0001623: Dwarves can have preferences for non-existing body parts like bird/worm teeth. | ||||
| Description | One of my dwarves has a great fondness for 'blue jay tooth'. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| related to | 0003676 | confirmed | Dwarf has preference for "wagon wood" | |
| related to | 0004665 | confirmed | Loci | "Prefers to consume [animal]" not working properly |
| has duplicate | 0004735 | resolved | Bumblebees not hiveable, but make food and drink | |
| has duplicate | 0006276 | resolved | Dwarves can like body parts of animals that don't have them | |
| has duplicate | 0005674 | resolved | Can prefer to eat non-butcherable vermin | |
| has duplicate | 0009072 | resolved | Dwarfs showing preference for animal teeth that don't exist | |
| related to | 0004924 | new | Preferences are ignoring world; dwarf likes goblin-cap wood in world without caverns | |
| related to | 0004950 | resolved | butchered crundle produces no horn | |
| child of | 0010954 | acknowledged | Loci | Food/drink preferences are buggy (bugs and references to related reports) |
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You haven't made any modifications to the RAWs have you? |
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No, it's completely unmodded. |
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Well in the RAWs all birds do technically have teeth, since they use the standard body plan (Which includes teeth). I guess since it's an acceptable material, it's also an acceptable preference. Looking through a fort I was bugtesting, one person likes thornback ray teeth, and another that likes gray squirrel leather. Probably not intentional, but probably not a quick fix either. |
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I don't think this is a material preference in the sense of METAL/STONE/GEM_PREF. I think it's a food preference that's not checking the edibility tags properly. |
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This is definitely a material crafting preferences. Dwarves can form preferences for craftable materials (bone, leather, teeth, etc) from creatures which those materials cannot be produced from. This is a problem especially when nobles have a preferences for those materials and then start passing mandates for penguin teeth objects or whatever. This happens because those creatures have the materials in question as part of their creature definition, and those materials have flags which note them as being usable for crafting. When choosing materials that a dwarf may like, DF only looks at what materials are defined without checking if it's possible for them to exist or be produced. I have created a manual fix for this, in the form of a Python script which edits the raw files and either removes impossible-to-produce materials or modifies them to be unusable for crafting (and therefore qualified for material preferences). This does require some major reworking of the raws, as each creature has to have its material templates custom-tweaked. DF should really check to see if materials can actually be produced, and ideally check to see if the dwarven civilization in question has ever encountered those materials, rather than give dwarves preferences for completely imaginary materials. |
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Does that explain the preference for Slade? |
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Having a preference for Slade is due to DF not checking to see if a material has [UNDIGGABLE] or [DEEP_SPECIAL] when looking for preferences. It really should. I don't know if it's possible to fix this by raw editing, I suspect if you made Slade no longer available as a valid stone you'd break the game. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2010-04-28 19:46 | Sirocco | New Issue | |
| 2010-04-28 20:08 | Logical2u | Note Added: 0005621 | |
| 2010-04-28 20:42 | Sirocco | Note Added: 0005627 | |
| 2010-04-28 20:54 | Logical2u | Note Added: 0005629 | |
| 2010-04-29 00:32 |
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Note Added: 0005642 | |
| 2010-04-29 00:32 |
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Note Edited: 0005642 | |
| 2010-04-29 00:33 |
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Summary | Dwarf has a particularly odd preference. => Dwarf has a preference for 'blue jay tooth' |
| 2011-07-31 05:33 |
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Relationship added | related to 0003676 |
| 2011-07-31 06:42 |
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Relationship replaced | parent of 0003676 |
| 2011-07-31 06:42 |
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Relationship added | related to 0004665 |
| 2011-07-31 06:43 |
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Relationship replaced | related to 0003676 |
| 2011-07-31 06:44 |
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Relationship added | related to 0004735 |
| 2011-10-14 07:16 |
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Relationship added | related to 0004924 |
| 2011-11-22 11:25 | ellindsey | Note Added: 0019001 | |
| 2011-11-23 13:19 | kwieland | Note Added: 0019007 | |
| 2011-11-23 17:48 | ellindsey | Note Added: 0019008 | |
| 2013-01-06 09:27 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0006276 |
| 2014-01-26 11:12 |
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Relationship replaced | has duplicate 0004735 |
| 2014-01-26 11:17 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0005674 |
| 2014-01-29 10:30 |
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Relationship added | related to 0004950 |
| 2015-09-17 23:49 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0009072 |
| 2015-09-17 23:50 |
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Summary | Dwarf has a preference for 'blue jay tooth' => Dwarves can have preferences for non-existing body parts like bird/worm teeth. |
| 2015-09-17 23:52 |
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Assigned To | => user1294 |
| 2015-09-17 23:52 |
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Status | new => confirmed |
| 2018-11-12 12:30 | Loci | Relationship added | child of 0010954 |
