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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0002188Dwarf FortressAdventure Mode -- Eating/Drinkingpublic2014-07-13 23:13
Reportertoybasher Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version0.31.05 
Summary0002188: Adventurers can be simultaneously starving and too full (of either water or food) to eat
DescriptionIf an adventure is too full they cant eat even if they are about to starve to death.
TagsNo tags attached.

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has duplicate 0005065 resolveduser6 Thirst/hunger seem to be shared 
related to 0003950 new Drinking beer is not filling, while drinking blood contaminants is 

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user6

2010-06-16 13:21

  ~0008569

Last edited: 2010-06-16 13:22

Your adventurer is simultaneously starving and too full? Do you keep starving if you wait a while?

smjjames

2010-06-16 13:30

reporter   ~0008571

I've gotten this in arena mode as well.

toybasher

2010-06-20 09:17

reporter   ~0008774

To footkercheif, Yes it does keep starving me and I can starve to death if I cant digest whatever is occupying my gut in time.

user6

2010-06-20 09:22

  ~0008777

In that case, you should probably upload a save demonstrating this problem. http://dffd.wimbli.com/

toybasher

2010-06-20 09:38

reporter   ~0008782

Ok! Will do once I can bring myself to install the new version.

user6

2010-06-28 07:47

  ~0009222

Any updates?

toybasher

2010-06-28 10:31

reporter   ~0009253

I will try to do this one soon, I will upload a save real soon.

Getting caught of in dwarf mode (Annoying miltiery bugs...grr)

toybasher

2010-06-28 10:48

reporter   ~0009254

Last edited: 2010-06-28 10:49

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2592

He is starving and yet he still wont eat,

toybasher

2010-06-28 15:46

reporter   ~0009274

By the way, how is this intentional? (No offense intended)

user6

2010-06-28 16:50

  ~0009277

It's possibly realistic. Having food in your belly doesn't mean that your body has digested it, or that the nutrients have entered your bloodstream.

toybasher

2010-06-29 15:11

reporter   ~0009328

However all of the time eating food makes the starving/hungry icon go away instantly.

Untelligent

2010-07-11 19:00

reporter   ~0009997

Last edited: 2010-07-11 19:02

I'll add my own report here, since this just happened to me in 31.10.

Went hunting in the mountains. Fell asleep by a brook. Woke up hungry and thirsty. Drank until I couldn't, no longery thirsty but still hungry. Tried to eat some meat. Got a "too full" message, despite being hungry. Wasn't starving though.

Walked around for a while and was eventually able to eat something. Looks like the amount of fullness a bit of meat restores is just a bit larger than the threshold at which you become hungry. Either that or there's a problem with sleeping.

This was NOT a save I transferred from an earlier version. I genned this world in 31.10.

Khym Chanur

2012-02-14 19:58

reporter   ~0019588

With 0.34.01, I ate when it said "hungry". It still said "hungry", but trying to eat again told me I was too full.

liquience

2012-02-18 14:37

reporter   ~0020061

I am seeing the same issue as Khym Chanur, but in 0.34.02 (adventure mode).

user6

2014-01-20 19:37

  ~0024297

Another save at: 0005155:0019820

zarmeck

2014-07-13 16:50

reporter   ~0026232

Same problem in 0.40.03

Rafal99

2014-07-13 23:13

reporter   ~0026288

Last edited: 2014-07-13 23:25

There seem to be a lot of confusion about this so let me explain.
Dwarf can only drink or eat 3 times before becoming "too full" and having to wait a while.
This was and likely still is easy to reproduce.
If you drink 3 times then you can't eat because you are too full, even if starving.
If you eat 3 times then you can't drink because you are too full, even if dehydrated.

It was already described long time ago in the notes in 0005065.

This is how the game mechanics works, now the only question is if it is a good mechanic or not. Imho it is bad because it doesn't show to the player how full he is, until it is too late, and maybe it shouldn't allow the player to fill himself with only water if he is starving?

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-06-06 10:32 toybasher New Issue
2010-06-16 13:21 user6 Note Added: 0008569
2010-06-16 13:22 user6 Note Edited: 0008569
2010-06-16 13:30 smjjames Note Added: 0008571
2010-06-20 09:17 toybasher Note Added: 0008774
2010-06-20 09:22 user6 Note Added: 0008777
2010-06-20 09:22 user6 Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-06-20 09:38 toybasher Note Added: 0008782
2010-06-28 07:47 user6 Note Added: 0009222
2010-06-28 10:31 toybasher Note Added: 0009253
2010-06-28 10:48 toybasher Note Added: 0009254
2010-06-28 10:49 toybasher Note Edited: 0009254
2010-06-28 11:14 user6 Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-06-28 11:14 user6 Tag Attached: Intentional?
2010-06-28 11:14 user6 Summary Adventurers that are too full cant eat, even when starving or dehydrated. => Adventurers can be simultaneously starving and too full to eat
2010-06-28 15:46 toybasher Note Added: 0009274
2010-06-28 16:50 user6 Note Added: 0009277
2010-06-29 15:11 toybasher Note Added: 0009328
2010-07-11 19:00 Untelligent Note Added: 0009997
2010-07-11 19:02 Untelligent Note Edited: 0009997
2010-07-12 12:03 user6 Tag Renamed Intentional? => Intentional/Expected?
2012-02-14 19:58 Khym Chanur Note Added: 0019588
2012-02-14 20:05 user6 Relationship added related to 0005068
2012-02-14 20:05 user6 Relationship deleted related to 0005068
2012-02-14 20:05 user6 Relationship added related to 0005065
2012-02-14 20:05 user6 Tag Detached: Intentional/Expected?
2012-02-18 14:37 liquience Note Added: 0020061
2012-02-22 08:22 user6 Relationship added related to 0003950
2014-01-20 19:37 user6 Note Added: 0024297
2014-01-27 21:05 user6 Relationship replaced has duplicate 0005065
2014-01-27 21:06 user6 Summary Adventurers can be simultaneously starving and too full to eat => Adventurers can be simultaneously starving and too full (of either water or food) to eat
2014-07-13 16:50 zarmeck Note Added: 0026232
2014-07-13 23:13 Rafal99 Note Added: 0026288
2014-07-13 23:16 Rafal99 Note Edited: 0026288
2014-07-13 23:20 Rafal99 Note Edited: 0026288
2014-07-13 23:22 Rafal99 Note Edited: 0026288
2014-07-13 23:25 Rafal99 Note Edited: 0026288