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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0002191 | Dwarf Fortress | Adventure Mode -- Combat | public | 2010-06-06 13:01 | 2012-02-22 13:59 |
| Reporter | toybasher | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | high | Severity | major | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | new | Resolution | reopened | ||
| Product Version | 0.31.05 | ||||
| Summary | 0002191: Rolls for wrestling moves are too all-or-nothing | ||||
| Description | WHen wrestling the moves either work or dont work. Like trying to grab a weapon and steal it, you either dont get it even if you try 10 times more. or DO get it and get it evrey damn time. Same with breaking grips, another human had me and I am pretty sure IF I tried 20 TIMES! I would be able to break his grip. | ||||
| Tags | combat, wrestling | ||||
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Please don't make bug reports for balance issues. You can reopen this report if you come back with detailed, thorough information about why you think this is a bug. |
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I dont mean fixed as in balence, I mean its too ONE OFF. Like if you dont have enough strength to break his grip, YOU NEVER WILL No matter how many times you try, it will just say you struggle in vain and nothing will happen, allowing you to struggle again and agan but "struggling" will have no effect, even if you are one skill point too short. |
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I understand what you're saying. That's still a balance problem -- combat numbers are being weighed wrongly (or possibly just not to your taste). To make useful reports, you need to provide real actionable information -- specific scenarios (at a minimum the types and descriptions of the creatures involved, but preferably an uploaded save) and detailed descriptions of the desired and actual outcomes (and the differences between them). And that's still no guarantee that this counts as a bug. It may be entirely intended that your weak human adventurer cannot escape from the strong giant's grip. Also, 10 or 20 attempts is not enough to demonstrate "never." As I said, come back if/when you have real information. |
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Alright, This was a human vs human in adventure mode, he got me by the arm so I tried to choke the **** out of him, Now it kept saying I "struggled in vain" SO I began punching his lights out, eventually he was vomiting evreywhere and was wounded in all limbs as well as exhausted (yellow damage, means body part is losing function)and in extreme pain, Now I was'nt wounded at all here so I should be able to break his grip right? He was even stunned and winded. Wrong. I kept trying to break his grip or begin a chokehold yet it still said I struggled or adjusted my grip. This went on for about 5 minutes in real time untill my adventurer had actually gained another wreslter skill point, then I was immediately able to break his grip on the first attempt. I was also able to begin strangulation on first attempt too. |
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I kept trying to break his grip or begin a chokehold yet it still said I struggled or adjusted my grip. This went on for about 5 minutes in real time untill my adventurer had actually gained another wreslter skill point, then I was immediately able to break his grip on the first attempt. I was also able to begin strangulation on first attempt too. Alright, it would be helpful for you to upload a save demonstrating this situation or one like it -- ideally the save would be at the bolded part, where you almost have enough skill to break their grip, but not quite. http://dffd.wimbli.com/ |
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what file do I upload? I mean the f ile with the bug in it, its region one but what file exactly. Is it world.sav? |
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The save is the whole region1 (or whatever) folder. Compress the whole folder and upload it. |
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How do I compress it then? Never mind, got it! |
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http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2457 Footkercheif, save file. glitch! You want it? Its yours my friend, as long as you have enough coins. I am sorry adventurer, I cant give grip break! come back when you are a little MMMMM...Tougher! |
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i never seem to have problems with this in the current version (34.02) tho i do fail to grab shields which i find strange, cus every failed shield grab attempt is blocked by the shield i'm trying to grab. but besides that wrestling works fine both ways, tho it is a bit overpowered but that is a balance issue not a bug. one turn of strangling means they are unconscious and easily behead-able. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2010-06-06 13:01 | toybasher | New Issue | |
| 2010-06-06 13:04 |
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Note Added: 0007822 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:04 |
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Status | new => resolved |
| 2010-06-06 13:04 |
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Resolution | open => no change required |
| 2010-06-06 13:04 |
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Assigned To | => user6 |
| 2010-06-06 13:04 |
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Note Edited: 0007822 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:06 | toybasher | Note Added: 0007824 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:06 | toybasher | Status | resolved => feedback |
| 2010-06-06 13:06 | toybasher | Resolution | no change required => reopened |
| 2010-06-06 13:07 | toybasher | Note Edited: 0007824 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:19 |
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Note Added: 0007826 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:19 |
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Status | feedback => resolved |
| 2010-06-06 13:19 |
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Resolution | reopened => no change required |
| 2010-06-06 13:20 |
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Note Edited: 0007826 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:21 |
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Note Edited: 0007826 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:21 |
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Note Edited: 0007826 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:22 |
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Note Edited: 0007826 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:29 | toybasher | Note Added: 0007828 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:29 | toybasher | Status | resolved => feedback |
| 2010-06-06 13:29 | toybasher | Resolution | no change required => reopened |
| 2010-06-06 13:30 | toybasher | Note Edited: 0007828 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:30 | toybasher | Note Edited: 0007828 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:31 | toybasher | Note Edited: 0007828 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:37 |
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Note Added: 0007830 | |
| 2010-06-06 13:37 |
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Note Edited: 0007830 | |
| 2010-06-06 15:10 | toybasher | Note Added: 0007836 | |
| 2010-06-06 15:10 | toybasher | Status | feedback => assigned |
| 2010-06-06 15:11 | toybasher | Note Edited: 0007836 | |
| 2010-06-06 15:11 | Malicus | Note Added: 0007837 | |
| 2010-06-06 15:12 | toybasher | Note Added: 0007838 | |
| 2010-06-06 15:28 | toybasher | Note Edited: 0007838 | |
| 2010-06-06 15:30 | toybasher | Note Added: 0007839 | |
| 2010-06-06 16:10 |
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Assigned To | user6 => |
| 2010-06-06 16:10 |
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Status | assigned => new |
| 2010-07-16 20:00 | TomiTapio | Tag Attached: graphics | |
| 2010-07-16 20:00 | TomiTapio | Tag Attached: wrestling | |
| 2010-07-16 20:00 | TomiTapio | Tag Detached: graphics | |
| 2010-07-16 20:01 | TomiTapio | Tag Attached: combat | |
| 2012-02-20 17:37 |
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Summary | Wrestling moves are too fixed. => Rolls for wrestling moves are too all-or-nothing |
| 2012-02-22 13:59 | Xotano | Note Added: 0020488 |
