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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0000256Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Itemspublic2010-09-17 22:37
ReporterDewar Assigned ToToady One  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
Platformx64OSWindows 7OS VersionWindows 7 Pro
Fixed in Version0.31.13 
Summary0000256: "Make Rock Short Sword" results in wooden short sword
DescriptionI've set my stonecrafter to constantly make rock short swords, but rather than using the obsidian that's lying around, he's using wood and making practice swords. So far he hasn't made a single obsidian sword, but that might change as wood gets more scarce
Steps To ReproduceAdd the "Make Rock Short Sword" job to the craft shop queue with plenty of wood around.
TagsNo tags attached.

Relationships

has duplicate 0000598 closeduser6 Craftdwarf's Workshop produces Wooden short swords when ordered to produce Rock short swords 
has duplicate 0000724 closeduser6 "Make rock short sword" produces wooden short sword 
has duplicate 0000859 closeduser6 obsidian swords cannot be made 
has duplicate 0000947 closeduser6 Crafting "rock short sword" produces wood short swords 
has duplicate 0002631 resolvedLogical2u Cant make rock swords 
has duplicate 0002653 resolveduser6 Rock Swords aren't created from obsidian 
has duplicate 0003098 resolvedLogical2u When told to make rock short sword, dwarf insead makes wooden training sword. 
related to 0003783 confirmeduser6 Rock swords can't be used in the arena 
related to 0000073 resolvedToady One cannot disable the use of obsidian in the z->stone screen 
related to 0009943 acknowledgeduser11 Producing rock short swords and selecting specific stone results in wooden swords 

Activities

Nimrod

2010-04-03 02:34

reporter   ~0000464

As far as i know obsidian swords use one obsidian stone AND one piece of wood.
(proof: Try to sell one to the elves and see them soil their panties over it)

Steb

2010-04-03 03:18

reporter   ~0000469

With this bug the reactin uses a sharp stone and a piece of wood, however, the finished product is called after the wood type not the stone type, i.e. "birchen short sword"

Marconius

2010-04-09 00:08

reporter   ~0002268

I've run into this myself.

Question is, does the "birchen short sword" have the stats of a wooden weapon or an obsidian weapon? Can anyone verify either way?

maanahr

2010-04-09 02:07

reporter   ~0002277

Last edited: 2010-04-09 02:08

I can't really verify, but I used them at the start of a fort once, and they seemed to at least cut up vultures pretty well.

Drone

2010-04-09 02:27

reporter   ~0002281

It is *meant* to use wood (for the handle and suchlike) so I guess what this means is it's making the wrong type of sword?

Marconius

2010-04-09 07:11

reporter   ~0002320

The swords are showing up named "birchen short sword" and such.

The question is... are they -actually- wooden swords or is it just a naming error?

As in, maybe they're actually obsidian swords, just called "birchen short sword"?

ronarscorruption

2010-04-27 08:07

reporter   ~0005337

The real question is why they use an entire tree's worth of wood to make the handle. I coulda made a bed with that.

DoctorZuber

2010-04-27 10:12

reporter   ~0005351

lol, that is dwarfy, but that's how it always was. one unit of obsidian, one unit of wood. the same one unit of wood can be used to make a bed, just as the same unit of obsidian can be used to make an entire wall section. such is life.

Logical2u

2010-04-27 10:14

manager   ~0005352

... Well, uh, it's not JUST the handle that's made out of wood.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macuahuitl
Essentially the idea is that it's a wooden sword with embedded shards of sharp stone.

Bronzebeard

2010-05-17 07:07

reporter   ~0006877

^ No... No it's not.

user6

2010-05-17 07:12

  ~0006878

Care to elaborate?

shibdib

2010-07-11 14:25

reporter   ~0009960

Problly a mixup in the reaction causing the game to use the wood's name inplace of the stone, but keeping the stones stats

dree12

2010-08-04 10:05

reporter   ~0011493

Or intended. It is a wooden short sword, after all. See Logical2u's link.

Quietust

2010-08-24 18:36

reporter   ~0012067

Have the combat properties of these weapons been properly tested, or are people simply assuming that the fault is solely in the item's name?

In all likelihood, the swords probably *are* made of wood and they're doing more damage than training swords because they have sharp edges (about as sharp as wood gets, anyways), and they're being made of wood instead of obsidian due to the same bug as 0002817 (namely, using the material from the wrong ingredient).

Quietust

2010-08-25 08:39

reporter   ~0012080

Additionally, due to 0000821/0000823, rock short swords are often made using copper nuggets, silver nuggets, horn silver, gold nuggets, platinum nuggets, native aluminum, or raw adamantine instead of obsidian.

dree12

2010-08-25 12:02

reporter   ~0012086

I'm not sure if that's a bug, METAL_TEMPLATE has SHARP for a reason. (native metals should really be the exact same sharp as metals)

Toady One

2010-09-06 05:15

administrator   ~0012449

This should be fixed up for 0.31.13.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-03 02:02 Dewar New Issue
2010-04-03 02:34 Nimrod Note Added: 0000464
2010-04-03 03:18 Steb Note Added: 0000469
2010-04-06 02:47 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0000598
2010-04-07 10:00 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0000724
2010-04-09 00:08 Marconius Note Added: 0002268
2010-04-09 01:14 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0000859
2010-04-09 02:07 maanahr Note Added: 0002277
2010-04-09 02:08 maanahr Note Edited: 0002277
2010-04-09 02:27 Drone Note Added: 0002281
2010-04-09 07:11 Marconius Note Added: 0002320
2010-04-11 00:24 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0000947
2010-04-27 08:07 ronarscorruption Note Added: 0005337
2010-04-27 10:12 DoctorZuber Note Added: 0005351
2010-04-27 10:14 Logical2u Note Added: 0005352
2010-04-28 14:03 user6 Summary Make Rock Shortsword Uses Wood => "Make Rock Short Sword" results in wooden short sword
2010-04-28 14:04 user6 Category General => Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Items
2010-05-17 07:07 Bronzebeard Note Added: 0006877
2010-05-17 07:12 user6 Note Added: 0006878
2010-07-11 11:33 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0002631
2010-07-11 13:00 user6 Sticky Issue No => Yes
2010-07-11 14:25 shibdib Note Added: 0009960
2010-07-12 08:22 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0002653
2010-08-04 10:05 dree12 Note Added: 0011493
2010-08-24 18:22 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0003098
2010-08-24 18:36 Quietust Note Added: 0012067
2010-08-25 08:39 Quietust Note Added: 0012080
2010-08-25 12:02 dree12 Note Added: 0012086
2010-09-06 05:15 Toady One Note Added: 0012449
2010-09-06 05:15 Toady One Status new => resolved
2010-09-06 05:15 Toady One Fixed in Version => 0.31.13
2010-09-06 05:15 Toady One Resolution open => fixed
2010-09-06 05:15 Toady One Assigned To => Toady One
2010-09-06 08:21 user11 Sticky Issue Yes => No
2010-12-07 07:35 user6 Relationship added related to 0003783
2011-04-06 17:16 user6 Relationship added related to 0000073
2017-11-22 16:59 user11 Relationship added related to 0009943