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0002831Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Diplomacypublic2010-09-07 04:19
Reporterslink Assigned ToToady One  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformSDL VersionOSWinXP SP3 
Product Version0.31.12 
Fixed in Version0.31.13 
Summary0002831: Human/elf diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue
DescriptionFor the first time in 31.x I have gotten diplomats from the Elves and the Humans. I don't know yet what the Elven one had to say because he fairly quickly left unhappy, but the Human one said:

"I am your liaison from the Mountainhomes. Let's discuss your situation."
Tagsdialogue, liason

Relationships

related to 0001102 resolvedToady One Liaisons/diplomats not replaced 
has duplicate 0002848 resolveduser6 Human Representative talks like Dwarven Liason 
has duplicate 0003019 resolveduser11 Human & elf diplomats are from Mountainhomes? 
has duplicate 0003055 resolveduser11 Everyone claims to be from the Mountainhomes 
has duplicate 0003118 resolvedLogical2u Elf liason claims is from the mountainhome. 
has duplicate 0003240 resolvedLogical2u Everyone represents the mountainhomes 
has duplicate 0003366 resolvedLogical2u Damn dirty elf claims to be my liason from the mountainhomes. 

Activities

slink

2010-07-25 11:44

reporter   ~0010994

Last edited: 2010-07-25 11:46

This was followed by the usual comment about how you've carved a nice place out for yourself, then the conversation ended with

"I look forward to our meeting next year. Our fortunes rise and fall together."

Nothing is ever discussed about trade agreements.

Edit: Then he left via the caverns!?

user6

2010-07-25 11:45

  ~0010995

Are you sure the human liaison was actually from a human civ, and not a human who grew up in the dwarven civ? The fastest way to check might be to backup the save, abandon the fortress and look him/her up in Legends.

slink

2010-07-25 11:47

reporter   ~0010996

Yes, I am certain. This is from the gamelog.

The human Engraver Nitho Gasinronik from Mong Wisho has arrived.
A human caravan from Mong Wisho has arrived.

Toady One

2010-07-25 16:14

administrator   ~0011027

Yeah, they should use the regular diplomat script but they are using the dwarf one instead. They aren't trade representatives, so they just do the boring war/peace type stuff (as with the old human diplomat). The trade nobility for humans has not been reconstructed.

furiousfish

2010-07-26 09:42

reporter   ~0011085

The elf diplomat I got today used the dwarven greeting but then went on to demand I limit my tree-cutting (on a map with no trees), so that part seems to be working.

Volouscheur

2010-08-13 12:17

reporter   ~0011765

I've experienced the same issue. The human and elf diplomats appear and start the dialogue with the usual dwarven greetings, but then act like you'd expect them to (the elf demands a limit of tree-cutting, the human commented on how it was a "nice little place you've carved out for yourself").

Quietust

2010-08-29 15:04

reporter   ~0012236

It should be noted that this only occurs for diplomats that arrive at the same time as the caravans - once you get a Baron, the Human civilization will send a real Diplomat (even labeled as a "diplomat" in the arrival announcement rather than with its profession) who will use the correct introduction ("Greetings, noble dwarf. There is much to discuss.") and parting text ("It has been an honor, noble [dwarfname]. I bid you farewell."). Of course, due to 0002892, that diplomat will never come back.

user11

2010-09-06 08:46

  ~0012455

Reminder sent to: Toady One

I stickied this one, only because you mentioned you'd fix it in this release:

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=62368.msg1430785#msg1430785

It isn't a major deal, but people (especially new people) are confusing diplomats and liaisons.

Toady One

2010-09-07 02:46

administrator   ~0012465

This should be handled for 0.31.13.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-07-25 11:39 slink New Issue
2010-07-25 11:44 slink Note Added: 0010994
2010-07-25 11:45 user6 Note Added: 0010995
2010-07-25 11:46 user6 Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-25 11:46 slink Note Edited: 0010994
2010-07-25 11:47 slink Note Added: 0010996
2010-07-25 11:52 user6 Summary All Liaisons from Mountainhomes? => Human liaison/diplomat talks like he's from the Mountainhomes
2010-07-25 11:53 user6 Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-25 11:54 user6 Relationship added related to 0001102
2010-07-25 11:55 user6 Summary Human liaison/diplomat talks like he's from the Mountainhomes => Human liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement
2010-07-25 14:48 user6 Summary Human liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement => Human/elf liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement
2010-07-25 16:14 Toady One Note Added: 0011027
2010-07-25 16:14 Toady One Assigned To => Toady One
2010-07-25 16:14 Toady One Status new => acknowledged
2010-07-25 16:27 user6 Summary Human/elf liaison/diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue, doesn't offer trade agreement => Human/elf diplomat uses Mountainhomes dialogue
2010-07-25 22:47 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0002848
2010-07-26 09:42 furiousfish Note Added: 0011085
2010-08-13 12:17 Volouscheur Note Added: 0011765
2010-08-13 14:30 user11 Relationship added has duplicate 0003019
2010-08-17 15:55 user11 Relationship added has duplicate 0003055
2010-08-29 13:04 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0003118
2010-08-29 14:54 Areyar Tag Attached: liason
2010-08-29 14:54 Areyar Tag Attached: dialogue
2010-08-29 15:04 Quietust Note Added: 0012236
2010-09-06 08:43 user11 Sticky Issue No => Yes
2010-09-06 08:46 user11 Note Added: 0012455
2010-09-07 02:46 Toady One Note Added: 0012465
2010-09-07 02:46 Toady One Status acknowledged => resolved
2010-09-07 02:46 Toady One Fixed in Version => 0.31.13
2010-09-07 02:46 Toady One Resolution open => fixed
2010-09-07 04:19 user11 Sticky Issue Yes => No
2010-09-24 13:40 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0003240
2010-11-06 08:53 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0003366