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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0003391 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Invasions | public | 2010-10-08 19:25 | 2013-09-22 17:35 |
| Reporter | Quietust | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | new | Resolution | open | ||
| Product Version | 0.31.16 | ||||
| Summary | 0003391: Building destroyers target floor grates, destroy their own route into the fortress | ||||
| Description | The behavior for creatures with [BUILDINGDESTROYER:2] is to destroy any buildings that block their path into the fortress. However, they also target floor grates (and reportedly floor bars as well), even when doing so will remove their only path into the fortress. | ||||
| Tags | BUILDINGDESTROYER | ||||
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It should be noted that they do not instantly topple them like they do with statues - instead, they simply stand next to the grates and very slowly damage them (to 'x', 'X', and 'XX') before destroying them outright. |
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Logically, there are two ways to fix this problem: 1. Make them only target floor grates/bars if they are actually blocking their path (e.g. they're covering down-stairs, they're covering open space and the creature can fly, or they're covering water and the creature can swim). This would probably be rather complicated. 2. Make them ignore floor grates/bars entirely, just as they currently ignore wells, bridges, roads, traps, cages/chains, stockpiles, and upright spikes. With a bit of searching, I could make a binary patch for solution 2 without too much difficulty. |
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Floor hatches are also affected by this, though they could potentially be sealing a path rather than creating one and would thus require fix 0000001 as described above. |
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This issue can definitely be called a bug, but depending on the intelligence level of the attacker, it might also be called normal behavior. In the case of forgotten beasts you could say the creature is just a raging brute that smashes anything that smells of the hated, noisy, smelly dwarves, without considering the repercussions of his actions. I regularly use this behavior to trap Forgotten Beasts in elaborately-constructed labyrinths by leaving them only one path into my fortress which must cross a floor grate with empty space beneath it. You can also do this with flying beasts if you force them to smash upward through a locked floor hatch which has some water above it, if that water is keeping a pressure plate from triggering (and his destroying the hatch and draining the water causes the plate to trigger, collapsing chunks of natural rock that seal off his paths further into or back out of the fortress). Straight up "fixing this" so FBs\other attackers ignore grates and bars would make the game harder (which is often a good thing) but also limits how elaborately I can engineer traps and labyrinths, and overall I would consider it a detriment to available gameplay options. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2010-10-08 19:25 | Quietust | New Issue | |
| 2010-10-09 20:08 | Quietust | Note Added: 0013288 | |
| 2010-11-16 13:45 |
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Summary | Building destroyers target floor grates => Building destroyers target floor grates, destroy their own route into the fortress |
| 2012-06-08 08:30 | Quietust | Note Added: 0022918 | |
| 2012-06-08 08:30 | Quietust | Note Edited: 0022918 | |
| 2012-09-24 12:46 | Quietust | Note Added: 0023606 | |
| 2012-09-27 15:05 | ndigger | Note Added: 0023615 | |
| 2013-09-22 17:35 |
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Tag Attached: BUILDINGDESTROYER |
