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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0004741 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Military | public | 2011-07-06 18:53 | 2015-01-08 09:03 |
| Reporter | nutzy | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | crash | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | resolved | Resolution | not fixable | ||
| Platform | PC | OS | Windows 7 | OS Version | Home Premium |
| Product Version | 0.31.25 | ||||
| Summary | 0004741: Crash on assigning squads or positions a default uniform. | ||||
| Description | I've had crashes several times on this map and lost part of a season. This one seems unavoidable from at least the start of winter. There are some weird things going on that could be related. The crash happens right as the dwarven caravan leaves, but I don't know how that could have been the cause. At the same time, the liaison is in the process of being snubbed by a mayor who is waiting for traction. I tried killing the two of them with magma (via DFHack), but the crash still happens. The save has been uploaded to DFFD: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4636 | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | Load the region1 save Unpause | ||||
| Tags | caravan, crash, liaison, Mayor, Save Included, Save Needs Testing | ||||
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nutzy, for future reference, we only need the DF/data/save/region save folder, not the entire DF folder. Caravan doesn't reach the edge of the map, so I doubt it has anything to do with them. Since your Baron is also the mayor and has an infection, he may be dieing and that is causing the crash with the meeting. AppCrash with no errorlog entries. Replaced mayor with the broker/bookkeeper, but still get the crash, most likely because the meeting with the baron is already initiated. Not seeing any raw errors, but I only checked the dates on the files, not the contents. I'll relate this to a couple other liaison/diplomat/crash bugs and leave it open for further review. |
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Sorry for the overkill at DFFD. I have noticed suggestions on several bug reports here and noticed that disbanding the military is often advised. I gave it a shot and the crash was averted, so it could be that the mayor/liaison has nothing to do with it. If you look at the nobles screen, though, you will see that the only noble who can be replaced (before you disband the military) is the mayor. It doesn't make sense to me, but might mean something. A little later, a goblin ambush arrives. I had an instant crash when I enlisted the civilians caught outside to die fighting. That crash occurs if and only if they are assigned uniforms. If this is related to an existing bug I haven't seen it. |
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Reminder sent to: nutzy Thanks for the follow-up. Can you look at that save again? When I load it, every noble position except the baron can be replaced. Was your baron/mayor ever in the military (he has skills, but may have arrived with them and I don't see combat reports or announcements for him)? Also, what change did you make to your regional creature_standard raw file after the world was generated? My further notes follow: I've tried different schedules, deleting the burrows, stopping training, disbanding each squad in turn, etc. etc., but the crash continues. Only when all 3 squads are disbanded does the crash avert. |
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Oops. I think I tried to vacate the mayor position and that was why I couldn't change any other nobles, so disregard that. The mayor arrived in the first migration wave as a warrior taylor. I set him to work making bags, until the expedition had her skull caved in by a woman who went berserk when a macaque made off with her masterpiece billon goblet. Then he was appointed as sheriff and bashed her skull in for dwarven justice. That was his *only* combat experience in my fort. The only change in the raw was to change the goblin CREATURE_TILE from 'g' to 'o'. Changing it back doesn't prevent the crash and had no effect on a previous fortress. Disbanding the squads is not quite what prevents the crash. If you play with uniforms and set them all to be naked, the game is fine. As far as I can tell, after this *any* uniform assignment causes instant crash. |
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One more update. I don't think this is related to the liaison or mayor at all. I have continued playing this fortress for a while and even well after the mayor recovers the crash persists. As far as I can tell, when anyone in the military is assigned a uniform with any kind of handwear, the game instantly crashes. I'm not sure what causes this, but I think it may be related to a pump operator who was in the military for a while, but has been retired since he lost the use of both arms to nerve damage. As a result, all he is good for is spamming cancellation messages. I've tried drowning him, but even after he is dead, the crash continues. It could be that the crash isn't related to him, but I have no idea why having handwear assigned to soldiers could cause a crash. Also, I updated the DFFD file so that it includes *only* the region save folder. |
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Verified crash happens only when squad or position is assigned a uniform. This save doesn't load in 34.xx. |
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Since save compatibility has been broken since this report, it's hard to tell whether this crash has since been fixed. If anyone has a save that crashes under similar conditions in the latest version, please upload it to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ and PM a manager on the forums (or reopen the report). |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2011-07-06 18:53 | nutzy | New Issue | |
| 2011-07-06 18:56 | nutzy | Tag Attached: crash | |
| 2011-07-06 18:57 | nutzy | Tag Attached: Mayor | |
| 2011-07-06 18:58 | nutzy | Tag Attached: liaison | |
| 2011-07-06 18:58 | nutzy | Tag Attached: caravan | |
| 2011-07-08 22:42 |
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Note Added: 0018162 | |
| 2011-07-08 22:42 |
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Tag Attached: Save Included | |
| 2011-07-08 22:42 |
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Tag Attached: Save Needs Testing | |
| 2011-07-08 22:43 |
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Relationship added | related to 0003035 |
| 2011-07-08 22:43 |
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Relationship added | related to 0001649 |
| 2011-07-09 02:41 |
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Relationship added | related to 0000672 |
| 2011-07-09 12:29 | nutzy | Note Added: 0018181 | |
| 2011-07-09 12:29 | nutzy | Note View State: 0018181: private | |
| 2011-07-09 12:29 | nutzy | Note View State: 0018181: public | |
| 2011-07-09 13:35 |
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Note Added: 0018182 | |
| 2011-07-09 19:20 | nutzy | Note Added: 0018191 | |
| 2011-07-17 06:03 | nutzy | Note Added: 0018265 | |
| 2011-07-17 06:04 | nutzy | Note Edited: 0018265 | |
| 2014-03-25 17:08 |
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Note Added: 0024632 | |
| 2014-03-25 17:08 |
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Assigned To | => user11 |
| 2014-03-25 17:08 |
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Status | new => acknowledged |
| 2014-03-25 17:09 |
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Category | Dwarf Mode -- Diplomacy => Dwarf Mode -- Military |
| 2014-03-25 17:09 |
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Summary | Crash on caravan/liaison departure => Crash on assigning squads or positions a default uniform. |
| 2014-03-25 17:09 |
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Relationship deleted | related to 0003035 |
| 2014-03-25 17:09 |
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Relationship deleted | related to 0001649 |
| 2014-03-25 17:09 |
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Relationship deleted | related to 0000672 |
| 2015-01-08 09:03 |
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Note Added: 0031787 | |
| 2015-01-08 09:03 |
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Status | acknowledged => resolved |
| 2015-01-08 09:03 |
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Resolution | open => not fixable |
| 2015-01-08 09:03 |
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Assigned To | user11 => user6 |
