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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0005084Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Itemspublic2012-02-14 17:162017-11-22 15:32
Reporterbarconis Assigned Tolethosor  
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status resolvedResolutionno change required 
Product Version0.34.01 
Summary0005084: Jeweler able to cut/encrust all stone as well as gems
DescriptionJeweler shop includes all available stone types, not just gems. When asked to cut sandstone, sandstone items appeared in the cut gem category (e.g. 'cushion sandstone cabochons'). Is this WAI?
Steps To ReproduceBuild a jeweler's workshop on a map with stone. Give it jobs.
TagsIntentional/Expected?

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has duplicate 0005115 resolveduser6 Jewelers workshop will cut any stone as a gem. 
has duplicate 0005109 resolveduser6 Jeweler's workshop allows cutting of non-gem items. 
has duplicate 0005526 resolveduser11 Jeweler can cut native metal 
related to 0005275 new Jeweler cuts fire clay, but no new name for fire clay gems 
related to 0005527 resolveduser6 Can make gem windows from cut stone 

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user6

2012-02-14 18:20

  ~0019583

Last edited: 2012-02-14 20:22

 Yeah, it's intended: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/index.html#2011-06-13

barconis

2012-02-14 20:07

reporter   ~0019589

Is there a specific mention of this change anywhere? Your note had bad links referring to crafting/decorating with bone, which had no apparent relation to the topic. My search fu isn't finding a discussion of the subject in the forums, other than mention that cuts were added. I suppose it's another way to use up surplus stone/train jewelers without using actual gems of value...

user6

2012-02-14 20:26

  ~0019591

Last edited: 2012-02-14 20:27

 Ugh, that link imploded -- it's fixed now, but here's the relevant text:

"The cabochon rewrite extended to allowing each entity to pick from among the shapes defined in the raws for all of their gem cutting purposes, with different entries for non-precious stones vs. gems (to keep them cabochon'd on rock, we can handle exceptions later)."

If you check entity_default.txt, stone cabochons are explicitly allowed:

    [STONE_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
    [STONE_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
    [STONE_SHAPE:CUSHION_CABOCHON]
    [STONE_SHAPE:RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON]
    [GEM_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
    [GEM_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
    [GEM_SHAPE:CUSHION_CABOCHON]
    [GEM_SHAPE:RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON]
    [GEM_SHAPE:POINT_CUT_GEM]
    [GEM_SHAPE:TABLE_CUT_GEM]
    etc...

NW_Kohaku

2012-02-16 18:04

reporter   ~0019885

Last edited: 2012-02-16 18:04

 There is a problem with the stones being cut like gems - glazes are considered "stones". This means that I glaze a clay statue with "oval ash glaze cabochons".

See: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=5201

Pickled Tink

2012-02-17 19:42

reporter   ~0020006

I have cut sandy clay, clay loam, and fire clay I imported. I then encrusted a bucket with them.

"This is a chestnut bucket. The handle is made from sandy clay. On the item is a image of a cage in fire clay by iteb Lularrith. On the item is a well-designed image of a traction bench in clay loam by iteb Lularrith."

cutting the imported clay left it as "fire clay" or "sandy clay", but it is treated as cut in the menus and lost its imported status.

I sincerely doubt this was intended behaviour.

JayJayForce

2014-10-29 14:26

reporter   ~0030789

Confirmed for 0.40.14

Was able to cut Sandy Clay and Clay loam. Description did not change after they were cut, but they were placed into gem stockpile.

user8971

2014-12-24 15:30

  ~0031466

Last edited: 2014-12-24 15:57

 Confirmed in 0.40.21. Save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10313

I am cutting granite into all those four cabochons and storing them in gem stockpile. Their name and description changed when they have been cut, so it is not like at JayJayForce's place.

I have also managed to encrust some furniture in these cabochons. The description of the final item (<<*mica mechanisms*>>) is a bit weird, though:
"This is a superior quality mica mechanisms. On the item is a image of a cushion cabochon in granite by Onul Morulunal." That's a job for another bug report if there is none such yet.

Larix2

2014-12-24 20:28

reporter   ~0031467

Last edited: 2014-12-24 20:36

 Cutting of _stones_ is intended, i.e. it is no bug and shouldn't be "confirmed".

I can't see a problem with the item description either, apart from "a image".

I think the issue should be closed or renamed to reflect that the only actual bug remaining is 0005275 - clay can be cut, but gives a no-flavour "clay" gem that can be used for encrusting but has no entry in the gem stockpile. That one has been present since .34.x and exists in .40.22, as well.

user8971

2014-12-25 03:49

  ~0031468

Last edited: 2014-12-25 12:05

 @Larix2: I was confirming cutting of stones still works so yes, this report can probably be closed. And if only that cut clay lacks the change of description, let's move to that 0005275.

Also, I have thought it should be "a(n) image of SOMETHING MADE FROM cushion cabochon in granite" rather than "a(n) image of cushion cabochon in granite". Or did encrust description change in this way? I have thought it was not like this in 0.34 I used to play?

Edit: Moved this grammar stuff to 0008664.

Talvieno

2015-12-10 15:18

manager   ~0033747

This can be closed, right?

lethosor

2016-05-17 17:06

manager   ~0035212

PM me or another manager on the forums if this should be reopened.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2012-02-14 17:16 barconis New Issue
2012-02-14 18:20 user6 Note Added: 0019583
2012-02-14 18:20 user6 Status new => resolved
2012-02-14 18:20 user6 Resolution open => no change required
2012-02-14 18:20 user6 Assigned To => user6
2012-02-14 20:07 barconis Note Added: 0019589
2012-02-14 20:07 barconis Status resolved => feedback
2012-02-14 20:07 barconis Resolution no change required => reopened
2012-02-14 20:22 user6 Note Edited: 0019583
2012-02-14 20:26 user6 Note Added: 0019591
2012-02-14 20:27 user6 Note Edited: 0019591
2012-02-14 20:27 user6 Note Edited: 0019591
2012-02-15 07:15 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0005115
2012-02-15 07:15 user6 Assigned To user6 =>
2012-02-15 07:15 user6 Status feedback => new
2012-02-15 07:15 user6 Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2012-02-15 07:15 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0005109
2012-02-15 07:16 user6 Sticky Issue No => Yes
2012-02-16 18:04 NW_Kohaku Note Added: 0019885
2012-02-16 18:04 NW_Kohaku Note Edited: 0019885
2012-02-17 19:42 Pickled Tink Note Added: 0020006
2012-02-19 02:06 user6 Relationship added related to 0005275
2012-03-02 17:31 user11 Relationship added has duplicate 0005526
2012-03-02 17:32 user11 Relationship added related to 0005527
2014-10-29 14:26 JayJayForce Note Added: 0030789
2014-10-29 17:03 user6 Assigned To => user6
2014-10-29 17:03 user6 Status new => confirmed
2014-12-24 15:30 user8971 Note Added: 0031466
2014-12-24 15:57 user8971 Note Edited: 0031466
2014-12-24 20:28 Larix2 Note Added: 0031467
2014-12-24 20:35 Larix2 Note Edited: 0031467
2014-12-24 20:36 Larix2 Note Edited: 0031467
2014-12-25 03:49 user8971 Note Added: 0031468
2014-12-25 12:05 user8971 Note Edited: 0031468
2015-12-10 15:18 Talvieno Note Added: 0033747
2016-05-17 17:06 lethosor Note Added: 0035212
2016-05-17 17:06 lethosor Status confirmed => resolved
2016-05-17 17:06 lethosor Resolution reopened => no change required
2016-05-17 17:06 lethosor Assigned To user6 => lethosor
2017-11-22 15:32 user11 Sticky Issue Yes => No