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0000512Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Stockpilespublic2010-08-10 00:10
ReporterSethwick Assigned Touser6 
PrioritynormalSeveritymajorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status resolvedResolutionunable to reproduce 
PlatformPCOSWindows 7 
Product Version0.31.01 
Summary0000512: Dwarfs do not use bins
DescriptionThis has only happened in one fort, others have been fine. I build bins and they go to furniture storage and just sit there. I have lots of stockpiles, some nearly empty, some near full, some totally full, and no bin has been used (besides the full bins I bought from traders). The stockpiles have "maximum bins" equal to the number of tiles in the stockpile, so that's not the cause. Barrels work fine and are used to store food in the regular way.
Tagsbins, stockpile

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has duplicate 0000562 closeduser6 Bins Won't Create 
has duplicate 0001042 closeduser6 Dwarfs wont use bins 

Activities

user6

2010-04-05 13:35

  ~0001194

Last edited: 2010-04-05 13:35

Did the bug continue after a save/load? If so, it might be helpful if you upload a save demonstrating the problem. http://dffd.wimbli.com/

Sethwick

2010-04-08 00:22

reporter   ~0001972

Here is the save file http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2029

The glitch may have started occurring in a new fortress. This one, unlike the uploaded one, used bins fine for the first several years. I'll have to see if it's a glitch or dwarfs just haven't placed bins for a while due to business.

Langdon

2010-04-12 07:05

reporter   ~0003037

Have you at any point gone to the o(r)ders menu and turned off furniture hauling?

I accidentally did so on my current fort, and even if I turned it on later, now my dwarves don't haul bins to my finished goods stockpile (although they do use bins correctly on the stone block stockpile, and the ash/potash/pearlash stockpile)

crafty_barnardo

2010-04-13 20:33

reporter   ~0003382

I'm having the same problem: lots of empty bins, lots of stuff waiting to be stored. All my stockpiles are set to take bins, and I have dwarves with nothing to do that could hall it. I do have one bin that contains some stuff that came in with the initial expedition (but I'm not sure if the bin itself came with the expedition).

Kumquat

2010-04-13 22:58

reporter   ~0003408

I noticed that at one point dorfs stopped using wooden bins at a finished goods stockpile which I set to take only rock items (mass-produced rock crafts for trading), but that may be semi-intentional.

Termy

2010-04-21 15:11

reporter   ~0004511

I too have just had this bug. They started off using bins, then at some point suddenly refused to use them any more. I've checked all the settings, and it persists over saves. The only thing I can think of that caused it was deleting and changing stockpiles - I deleted a finished goods stockpile and later replaced it with a weapons stockpile. I noticed a dorf putting a large gem into an unmoved FG bin on that stockpile much later.

ercdvs

2010-04-22 06:20

reporter   ~0004584

I can't quite confirm, unless its just specific goods. My dwarf made crafts are stored in bins, as well as cloth, leather, weapons, armor, etc. Even crutches and such end up in finished goods bins.

All my games have been appearing to work properly

vatek

2010-04-29 14:52

reporter   ~0005707

Last edited: 2010-04-29 19:40

I can confirm this. I have about a dozen bins in my furniture stockpile and a lot of rock blocks, charcoal and metal bars ready for binning elsewhere in my fortress and my dwarves refuse to use the bins.

EDIT: Found a possible cause, user error. Hit (p) and check the reserved bin setting. Mine was set to 20 by accident, once I reduced it dwarves began using bins as normal.

Jiri Petru

2010-05-07 03:53

reporter   ~0006346

This is happening to me too. My stockpiles use bins/barrels up to a certain point after that they stop. My food, armor, cloth and crafts stockpiles are currently have this issue. I have a lot of unused bins and barrels sitting in furniture stockpiles, and I made sure no square of a stockpile is inaccessible (as per 0000795).

I can provide a save, if you want me to.

user6

2010-05-07 10:27

  ~0006363

Jiri: the save might be helpful. Thanks for clarifying that it's not 0000795.

Jiri Petru

2010-05-10 16:26

reporter   ~0006517

My save might actually not be that helpful, since I have a post-reclaim fortress that is ridden by reclaim bugs and bogged down by hauling tasks. I can't be certain this is not just a priority issue, and that they wouldn't use bins in the end. But after several game years, I do feel it's a bug.

I wouldn't be suprised though if this was something along the lines of 0000863. I imagine dwarves trying to use a bugged barrel or bin (I have several scattered around the fortress), failing and trying again, thus never proceeding to try a different barrel. Just a wild guess, though.

user11

2010-07-16 09:16

  ~0010427

Has anyone seen this issue recently?

This could be a case for "Does not reproduce."

user6

2010-07-16 09:24

  ~0010429

Reminder sent to: Sethwick

Sethwick, does your save still have this problem in 31.10?

Sethwick

2010-07-16 16:44

reporter   ~0010454

It has not happened in 31.10, no.

user6

2010-07-16 17:51

  ~0010456

Okay, we'll close it for now, then. Feel free to reopen this (or PM me on the forums) if it shows up again.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-05 13:17 Sethwick New Issue
2010-04-05 13:33 Qloos Tag Attached: stockpile
2010-04-05 13:33 Qloos Tag Attached: bins
2010-04-05 13:35 user6 Note Added: 0001194
2010-04-05 13:35 user6 Note Edited: 0001194
2010-04-05 21:06 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0000562
2010-04-08 00:22 Sethwick Note Added: 0001972
2010-04-12 07:05 Langdon Note Added: 0003037
2010-04-12 09:03 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0001042
2010-04-13 20:33 crafty_barnardo Note Added: 0003382
2010-04-13 22:58 Kumquat Note Added: 0003408
2010-04-21 15:11 Termy Note Added: 0004511
2010-04-22 06:20 ercdvs Note Added: 0004584
2010-04-29 14:52 vatek Note Added: 0005707
2010-04-29 19:38 vatek Note Edited: 0005707
2010-04-29 19:40 vatek Note Edited: 0005707
2010-05-07 03:53 Jiri Petru Note Added: 0006346
2010-05-07 10:27 user6 Note Added: 0006363
2010-05-10 16:26 Jiri Petru Note Added: 0006517
2010-07-16 09:16 user11 Note Added: 0010427
2010-07-16 09:23 user6 Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-07-16 09:24 user6 Note Added: 0010429
2010-07-16 16:44 Sethwick Note Added: 0010454
2010-07-16 17:51 user6 Note Added: 0010456
2010-07-16 17:51 user6 Status new => resolved
2010-07-16 17:51 user6 Resolution open => unable to reproduce
2010-07-16 17:51 user6 Assigned To => user6
2010-08-10 00:10 user11 Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE