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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000548 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Jobs, Smelting | public | 2010-04-05 19:05 | 2012-01-08 11:10 |
| Reporter | GRead | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | low | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | resolved | Resolution | no change required | ||
| Product Version | 0.31.01 | ||||
| Summary | 0000548: Smelting steel and pig iron requires 2 pieces of coal per operation | ||||
| Description | Formerly, Smelting Steel and Pig Iron required the use of a single piece of coke or charcoal, regardless of whether the smelter was magma powered or regular. It now requires one piece of coke for magma smelters, and two for non-magma. Of course, this assumes the change is not intentional. | ||||
| Tags | bars, smelter | ||||
| has duplicate | 0000931 | closed | Forging pig iron or steel bars at a regular smelter requires 2 units of fuel instead of 1 |
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I'd believe it if this were intentional. It makes more sense, and it's not like steel is too hard to get for how good it is. |
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I think this might be a "fix". Just from a practical standpoint, it seems odd to use the same piece of wood that you are going to use for your fire to add carbon to your steel? |
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I think Toady stated it's a feature. One piece of coal for the fire, one piece of coal for carbon. |
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The raws include a coal bar as one of the reagents for those reactions. It definitely seems intentional. |
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Interestingly, the old 2D version (0.23.130.23a and earlier) ALSO required 2 units of coal to smelt pig iron and steel in a non-magma smelter. It's possible that the behavior in 0.28.x was the bug and that it's now been fixed. |
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The 40D Raws have the [FUEL] and [REAGENT:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:COAL:NO_MATGLOSS] Tags for Steel and Pig Iron making as well, hence why I am unsure as to whether it is a bug or not. The new way does make sense, but better to report it and be wrong than let it fly under the radar. |
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But doesn't steel (at least good steel) have a low amount of carbon in it? Adding in that much carbon would probably make it too brittle. |
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Actually, reaction not changed. In 40d and 0.31.01 both pig iron and steel require fuel AND coal (so in non-magma smelters it's 2 coal units) to make. |
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http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/40d:Steel nitpick: when did we ever smelt steel? didn't we 'make steel' and 'make pig iron' ? |
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After reading through this again, the raws certainly support this as intentional (the posts above detail this) - 1 fuel and 1 coal for the standard workshop and 1 coal (no fuel) for the magma version. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2010-04-05 19:05 | GRead | New Issue | |
| 2010-04-05 19:07 | GRead | Tag Attached: bars | |
| 2010-04-05 19:07 | GRead | Tag Attached: smelter | |
| 2010-04-05 19:15 | King of the Internet | Note Added: 0001297 | |
| 2010-04-05 19:16 | Logical2u | Note Added: 0001298 | |
| 2010-04-05 19:18 | Jiri Petru | Note Added: 0001300 | |
| 2010-04-05 19:39 | Creidieki | Note Added: 0001306 | |
| 2010-04-05 20:29 | Quietust | Note Added: 0001324 | |
| 2010-04-05 21:53 | GRead | Note Added: 0001337 | |
| 2010-04-06 00:24 | Khym Chanur | Note Added: 0001365 | |
| 2010-04-06 02:04 | Fox the Undead | Note Added: 0001386 | |
| 2010-04-10 11:03 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0000931 |
| 2010-04-10 18:37 | kaefermelder | Note Added: 0002686 | |
| 2010-08-27 00:22 |
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Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected? | |
| 2012-01-08 11:09 |
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Tag Detached: Intentional/Expected? | |
| 2012-01-08 11:10 |
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Note Added: 0019323 | |
| 2012-01-08 11:10 |
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Status | new => resolved |
| 2012-01-08 11:10 |
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Resolution | open => no change required |
| 2012-01-08 11:10 |
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Assigned To | => user11 |
