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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0006512 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Thoughts and Preferences | public | 2014-06-24 11:12 | 2014-09-25 21:28 |
| Reporter | Quietust | Assigned To | Toady One | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | have not tried |
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 0.34.11 | ||||
| Fixed in Version | 0.40.13 | ||||
| Summary | 0006512: Cave Adaptation broken, does not cause pain, stun, or nausea | ||||
| Description | In previous versions of Dwarf Fortress (most notably 0.28.181.40d and earlier), a cave-adapted dwarf exposed to sunlight would experience Pain, Fatigue, Stun, and possibly also Nausea (depending on the degree of adaptation), as well as an unhappy thought. In the current version, however, this appears to be broken - it applies the unhappy thought and the Fatigue, but the Pain/Stun/Nausea are skipped entirely. I played multiple fortresses back in version 0.31.xx and wondered why my dwarves never vomited when they went outside - in all likelihood, it was broken back then as well. | ||||
| Additional Information | In version 0.23.130.23a (and likely also 0.281.181.40d), CaveAdapt 604800-800000 would trigger the following: * Nauseated by the sun lately * +200 fatigue (unless NOEXERT) * +50-99 nausea (unless NONAUSEA) * +20 pain (unless NOPAIN) * +50-99 stun (unless NOSTUN) Similarly, CaveAdapt 403200-604799 would trigger the following: * Irritated by the sun lately * +50 fatigue (unless NOEXERT) * +10 pain (unless NOPAIN) * +25-49 stun (unless NOSTUN) | ||||
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If the removal of these effects was intentional, then at the very least the thought text needs to be changed (since they don't actually get irritated or nauseated). |
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Just checked version 0.40.05, and this is still the case. |
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That's strange - in 40.03 I had dwarves vomiting all over the place outside my fortress... I'm not sure what else that could've been. I remember very clearly having dwarves vomiting a lot outside in 31.25 as well - that looked like a total mess in a snowy glacier biome. Perhaps it might not be fully broken... it might just be that they have to be inside for far longer to get it to work? |
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Cave adaptation "happens" at exactly one place in the game's code, and I've examined that place rather thoroughly and it does not do anything with pain, stun, or nausea - if your dwarves are vomiting outside, it is either the result of an Injury (e.g. blunt trauma to the guts) or a Syndrome (inflicted by a titan or forgotten beast). As a quick test, I just did a test embark in a new world, used DFHack to give everybody 2 years worth of cave adaptation, then had them stand outside - they all got bad thoughts about being "nauseated by the sun lately" and were observed to have increased fatigue, but they showed no sign of being stunned or nauseated. |
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Something else strange appears to be going on - if I attempt to forcibly make a dwarf nauseated (by setting the relevant timer), the nausea dissipates immediately once I unpause the game. The same happens with pain, dizziness, paralysis, numbness, and fever, but not winded/stunned/webbed. |
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Could it be that Fort Mode timers are using the Adventure Mode timescale? 34.01 had an enormous amount of rework done to syndromes, their triggers/timing, etc. |
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angavrilov suggested a more likely explanation on IRC - nausea, pain, dizziness, paralysis, numbness, and fever are all controlled by Syndromes and Wounds, so it's possible that the code is discarding those status ailments if it cannot detect a reasonable source for them. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2014-06-24 11:12 | Quietust | New Issue | |
| 2014-06-24 11:34 | Quietust | Note Added: 0024842 | |
| 2014-07-31 06:33 | Quietust | Note Added: 0028024 | |
| 2014-07-31 06:48 | Talvieno | Note Added: 0028027 | |
| 2014-08-07 09:56 | Quietust | Note Added: 0028527 | |
| 2014-08-07 10:09 | Quietust | Note Added: 0028528 | |
| 2014-08-07 10:50 | SirPenguin | Note Added: 0028533 | |
| 2014-08-07 14:34 | Quietust | Note Added: 0028541 | |
| 2014-08-07 14:35 | Quietust | Note Edited: 0028541 | |
| 2014-08-07 21:21 |
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Assigned To | => user6 |
| 2014-08-07 21:21 |
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Status | new => confirmed |
| 2014-09-16 12:46 | Toady One | Status | confirmed => resolved |
| 2014-09-16 12:46 | Toady One | Fixed in Version | => Next Version |
| 2014-09-16 12:46 | Toady One | Resolution | open => fixed |
| 2014-09-16 12:46 | Toady One | Assigned To | user6 => Toady One |
