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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0007522 | Dwarf Fortress | Adventure Mode -- Sites | public | 2014-07-20 15:55 | 2014-07-22 10:39 |
| Reporter | Robsoie | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | new | Resolution | open | ||
| Product Version | 0.40.04 | ||||
| Summary | 0007522: a dwarf fortress made of as much dwarves as there are goblins | ||||
| Description | My first generated pocket world of 0.40.04 with +/- 50 years of history. I decided to start with a Dwarf adventurer on this new version and new world. I spawned inside a fortress named Koganokun or "Boatshrine". Walking around a bit was a bit slower than i expected considering the pocket world and only 50 years and the 40.04 population bug fixed, and then i saw something that may have explained that, a big room with lots of dwarves and lots of goblins Dwarves and goblins not fighting, just being there, without talking. I uploaded the save at that point here : http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9090 I then moved to another room with several dwarves and goblins, still no fighting but those were talking a lot. I managed to find my way up to the surface and ran into a Trade Depot with several dwarves and goblins, again not fighting but talking a lot. At that point i decided to retire my character and load the legends xml into World Viewer utility, and it told me that at this fortress there were 102 dwarves 115 goblins a bunch of animals. As i see no reason to have so many dwarves and goblins (i doubt it was a goblin merchant caravan as it's a very lot of troop for merchants) on the same fortress, especially with as much goblins as there are dwarves, i imagine there was probably a war that failed to trigger there with the relationship/emotion bugged system (as there's no war in the legends taking place at Boatshrine). | ||||
| Tags | Intentional/Expected? | ||||
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Off the top of my head, here are a couple potential causes for this: 1. The dwarven civ took over a goblin site at some point in worldgen, and a significant goblin population immigrated to this fortress. 2. A goblin refugee group settled at the fortress after fleeing from something that destroyed their home. (Goblins like dwarven sites almost as much as they like their own.) Can you do a more thorough Legends crawl for the fortress in question, and follow up on the histories of some of its first goblin immigrants? |
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Of the saved game i uploaded, there are several goblins amongst the dwarves in that big room, i gave a look to some goblins name of the lots that were here, i noted them down : Olngo Stasostsaslu, "Olngo Tickdented" Stozu Ostoburar, "Stozu Deviousmaligns" Aslot Taxasmamxu, "Aslot Emeraldseduces" Ngom Gozrunerom, "Ngom Hellmobs" Zolak Smunstuspen, "Zolak Liestigman" I retired my character on site and looked at the legend, searching for those name. And to my surprise, while there are a very lot of goblins listed, none of specific named goblins appear in the figure lists. How is that possible ? Additionally, i looked in the Legends into the history of the fort itself ( Boatshrine ) on that long list of attack by forgotten beast and night creatures there are only 4 entries involving a goblin, each time it is an abduction of a dwarf. I looked then at the civ that founded that fortress, the "Superior Razors" and they had a long list of battle with forgotten beast, night creatures and yetis, but at no point there's a war vs a goblin entity, in the history of that civ there's not a single entry about goblins. So i'm at a loss then. |
