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0002500Dwarf FortressContaminants/Spatterpublic2015-11-30 20:32
Reportertoybasher Assigned To 
PrioritynoneSeveritytrivialReproducibilityN/A
Status newResolutionopen 
Product Version0.31.08 
Summary0002500: Blood spatter on internal body parts; dwarves unsuccessfully try to clean it off
DescriptionWhile attacking a fishery worker I noticed said fishery worker had some blood on her rib and one lung (but not the other) and a kidney, now farther investigating this I booted up arena mode and had the same thing happen So I controlled my opponant and was able to drink the blood spatter on my spleen.
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related to 0001977 new Injured internal organs are dressed by medic 
related to 0001023 resolvedToady One People picking up soap, getting "cancels Clean Self: Area inaccessible", then dropping it 
parent of 0002726 resolvedLogical2u Another case of cancel clean self spam 
parent of 0006145 new Internal contaminants 
has duplicate 0004517 resolveduser6 Unable to clean bloodstains from non-external body areas. 
related to 0002222 resolvedToady One Dwarf tries to clean missing body part 
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Quietust

2011-05-01 16:18

reporter   ~0017598

Last edited: 2011-05-16 05:56

One of my siege operators got shot by a goblin, and once the doctors were done with her she still had a spatter of blood on her guts - now she goes and tries to clean it off every once in a while, using up my soap in the process.

[edit] this is with version 0.31.25

Jerkwhistle

2011-05-15 21:41

reporter   ~0017750

I can confirm this problem still exists in 31.25, as I have a mason continuously trying to clean a true rib and a furnace operator with a spatter that is shown as being on his ankle, but which he can't clean so is presumably internal.

Quietust

2011-07-07 08:17

reporter   ~0018148

Fortunately, this problem has a sort of a workaround - save the game, edit the raws to make blood* boil at room temperature, load the game and unpause long enough for the blood to boil away, then save the game and change the raws back.

* - ideally only dwarf blood, otherwise Fun would result when your soldiers are suddenly engulfed in boiling clouds of forgotten beast "deadly blood".

kwieland

2011-07-07 09:04

reporter   ~0018149

Doesn't that kill all the dwarfs, Q?

Quietust

2011-07-07 09:52

reporter   ~0018150

Last edited: 2011-07-07 09:52

No, it doesn't - all it does it cause dwarves to refuse to eat food (with the apparent reason being that it's too hot) until you change the blood properties back to normal.

dree12

2011-07-08 18:49

reporter   ~0018158

Wouldn't the food be too cold? Because the boiling takes away heat, right?

Quietust

2011-07-08 19:09

reporter   ~0018160

I was only suggesting a workaround which just happens to work, and why it works is completely irrelevant to this bug report.

Toady One

2014-09-13 13:53

administrator   ~0030174

The cleaning part should be fixed now, but I'm not sure why there's internal spatter yet, at least for parts that haven't popped out.

user6

2014-09-14 17:50

  ~0030196

Reminder sent to: Toady One

Surgery might be a cause of internal spatter?

smjjames

2014-09-14 18:50

reporter   ~0030199

Last edited: 2014-09-14 19:13

Internal injuries are probably another source. I've noticed this with wrestling moves, so I checked in arena.

Steps I took:

1. I spawned a troll and a BC, took control of the BC.

2. locked and broke the trolls right shoulder, observed the blood spatter on the right shoulder.

3. Waited a bit for the troll to stop bleeding and recover a bit.

4. Locked and broke the left hip, also observed blood spatter.

5. Went back to arena mode and spawned some water above the troll, went back to the BC.

6. Pressed . a couple times to let the water wash off the troll.

7. Examine the troll and the blood spatters are still there, so they're probably internal.

Edit: I took control of the troll and it shows the skin as not being broken, so I assume that it's internal spatter.

Edit2: In following the internal injury angle, I went to the northern (and deepest) part of the arena, spawned dwarves at each z level above the floor until the top of the sky for the arena, let them fall, then spawned water over them to see if they have blood spatter from injuries. In the first test I did, after I spawned water and washed any blood off, dwarf 8 has blood spatter on right true ribs and right lung, dwarf 10 has blood spatter on left shoulder, and dwarf 12 has blood spatter on the left wrist.

Given the (somewhat) random nature of the injuries, you might have to do more than one test to get ones that have internal blood spatter.

Huntthetroll

2015-11-30 20:32

reporter   ~0033196

Last edited: 2015-11-30 20:36

http://imgur.com/a/06MF0

I've uploaded some screenshots that show this bug in action.

Context: I took control of a bronze colossus in an arena fight with a giant. I punched the giant in the upper body and shattered his middle spine's bone. Look at his description and you will see that his middle spine is "running with giant blood"; look at his inventory and you will see the resulting blood spatter on his middle spine.

Edit: Note also that the giant sustained no piercing injuries; that is, his skin, fat and muscle are everywhere intact.

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Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-06-28 12:06 toybasher New Issue
2010-06-28 13:01 user6 Summary Blood apatter on internal organs. => Blood spatter on internal organs.
2010-06-28 13:02 user6 Relationship added related to 0001977
2010-07-17 09:06 user6 Summary Blood spatter on internal organs. => Blood spatter on internal body parts
2010-07-17 09:07 user6 Relationship added parent of 0002726
2011-04-14 07:46 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0004517
2011-04-14 07:46 user6 Summary Blood spatter on internal body parts => Blood spatter on internal body parts; dwarves unsuccessfully try to clean it off
2011-05-01 16:18 Quietust Note Added: 0017598
2011-05-15 21:41 Jerkwhistle Note Added: 0017750
2011-05-16 05:56 Quietust Note Edited: 0017598
2011-07-07 08:17 Quietust Note Added: 0018148
2011-07-07 09:04 kwieland Note Added: 0018149
2011-07-07 09:52 Quietust Note Added: 0018150
2011-07-07 09:52 Quietust Note Edited: 0018150
2011-07-08 18:49 dree12 Note Added: 0018158
2011-07-08 19:09 Quietust Note Added: 0018160
2012-02-16 08:53 user6 Relationship added related to 0002222
2012-02-16 08:53 user6 Relationship added related to 0001023
2012-08-01 18:33 Logical2u Relationship added parent of 0006145
2014-09-13 13:53 Toady One Note Added: 0030174
2014-09-14 17:50 user6 Note Added: 0030196
2014-09-14 18:50 smjjames Note Added: 0030199
2014-09-14 18:53 smjjames Note Edited: 0030199
2014-09-14 19:08 smjjames Note Edited: 0030199
2014-09-14 19:13 smjjames Note Edited: 0030199
2015-11-30 20:32 Huntthetroll Note Added: 0033196
2015-11-30 20:36 Huntthetroll Note Edited: 0033196