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0003820Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Moodspublic2010-12-15 20:232011-02-06 15:16
ReporterWinter born Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status newResolutionopen 
PlatformHP notebook AMD TurionOSVista 32 bitOS Version Service Pack 2
Product Version0.31.18 
Summary0003820: Possessed Dwarf Claims Mason's Workshop and a Raw Gem, Starts Construction But Never Completes
DescriptionDwarf claimed masons workshop, went and got one raw gem, then keeps muttering "Vabokazin Ilash Otthat"
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Quietust

2010-12-15 20:31

reporter   ~0014596

Has he started a mysterious construction? If so, he's Possessed and he's started constructing his artifact.

It does seem odd, though, that a Mason would take over a Mason's workshop and then choose a gem as his only material - that's normally something a Gem Cutter or Gem Setter would do in a Jeweler's workshop...

Logical2u

2010-12-16 00:08

manager   ~0014599

1. Highly doubt this is a bug, just an unexpected feature.
2. Are you sure it's just a jewel he grabbed? You can check by "t"ing over the building, look for items listed as "tasked" or "tsk".

I really doubt we need a save for this.

Winter born

2010-12-19 10:36

reporter   ~0014629

Last edited: 2010-12-19 10:41

 No construction started just the ! indicating he is stuck waiting for an item.

Looking at the WIKI when they need an item the
Possessed <dwarf> mutters "<artifact> needs <demand>
It would seem in retrospect that the dang artifact name is so long it is obscuring what he needs next. :(

Vabokazin Ilash Otthat ...

Winter born

2010-12-19 10:55

reporter   ~0014630

Thanks for your help. If I could edit the bug description I would request that the artifact and demand be reversed to prevent overflow from obscuring the demand

change
from
    Possessed <dwarf> "mutters <artifact> needs <demand>"
to
    Possessed <dwarf> "mutters <demand> for <artifact>"

I have jpgs of the message and the TSK windows if that would be helpful.

user11

2010-12-19 11:27

  ~0014631

Go ahead and post a pic for clarity.

One question, did you by chance TAB (twice) the default sidebar view into the extended view?

Winter born

2010-12-20 06:03

reporter   ~0014639

I did tab 2x to get the larger window and saw

Vabokazin Ilash Otthat ...

jpg file here

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3584

user11

2010-12-20 08:35

  ~0014642

Thanks, can you upload a save at this point (at the time he claimed the shop)? I'd like to look at it in vanilla.

Winter born

2010-12-20 15:45

reporter   ~0014651

This save is just after the workshop was claimed and the mason went and got 1 raw gem then started flashing ! and muttering.


I am not sure what you need so sent the whole region folder
zip here:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3586

user11

2010-12-20 16:07

  ~0014652

I know you said he didn't start the construction, but if you look at the announcements, he started the construction. There is no message for new materials - he is muttering the name of the artifact (they do this after they gather their materials).

Though I would say that him grabbing a gem (fyi to readers, it is verified to be a rough crystal opal) is a bug, it is most likely covered by 0000157.

user11

2010-12-20 16:14

  ~0014653

oops, didn't mean to resolve this...

Winter born

2010-12-20 16:49

reporter   ~0014654

ok I feel silly missing that announcement
sorry for the trouble

user11

2010-12-20 17:01

  ~0014656

Sorry, I had to run this a couple times to get the chain of events.

The notice of possession, workshop claim and commencement: http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac11/Mondoshawan/MoodGemCommencement.jpg

He was making a bauxite door, and the bauxite is still in the workshop along with some doors that are tasked for storage.

The TSK on the gem isn't because he is using it, it is because there is a job for it to be stored in a bin: http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac11/Mondoshawan/MoodGemInactiveJob.jpg
Someone eventually takes the job and stores the gem.

Now, are you sure he claimed the gem? There is alot of traffic through the area, is it possible someone just happened to drop it there? I don't see a cancellation notice for storage in a bin, but not sure.

You didn't happen to be forbidding & unforbidding stones at this time, were you?

He never seems to complete the construction and eventually goes insane, so if he did claim that gem originally, then it surely is the bug.

Winter born

2010-12-20 18:14

reporter   ~0014660

iirc I got the notice of the strange mood so was watching him, he claimed the workshop, I am very confident he went and got the gem and brought it back to the workshop, then stood there muttering.

I do have a dump zone in the hallway and was doing some quantum dumping so there may have been some stones tagged for dumping when the strange mood started. After the strange mood announcement I was pretty much just watching the dwarf so was not giving any commands other than "Q" to try and figure out what was the next request. I did not see the construction started message

Sorry this does not seem to be a very good bug report. I am new to the game and like it a lot but could have made some noob mistake to get him stuck.

user11

2010-12-20 19:04

  ~0014663

It is fine, we are just narrowing it down.

The behavior is about the same as when a mooded dwarf claims items and then you forbid or dump designate his materials, which is why I asked.

If you are sure he grabbed a gem, then we'll leave it open for Toady to look at.

Winter born

2010-12-20 20:37

reporter   ~0014664

Last edited: 2010-12-21 05:57

 I'm pretty sure it was the moody dwarf that grabbed the jewel because I was watching him to make sure he got things he wanted. In another game I had to quickly butcher a cow to get bones so that the mood could continue. That was why I was so confused on this one as I could not see what he was asking for just the name of the artifact ...

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Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-12-15 20:23 Winter born New Issue
2010-12-15 20:31 Quietust Note Added: 0014596
2010-12-16 00:08 Logical2u Note Added: 0014599
2010-12-16 00:08 Logical2u Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-12-19 10:36 Winter born Note Added: 0014629
2010-12-19 10:37 Winter born Note Edited: 0014629
2010-12-19 10:41 Winter born Note Edited: 0014629
2010-12-19 10:55 Winter born Note Added: 0014630
2010-12-19 11:27 user11 Note Added: 0014631
2010-12-20 06:03 Winter born Note Added: 0014639
2010-12-20 08:35 user11 Note Added: 0014642
2010-12-20 15:45 Winter born Note Added: 0014651
2010-12-20 16:07 user11 Note Added: 0014652
2010-12-20 16:07 user11 Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2010-12-20 16:08 user11 Status new => resolved
2010-12-20 16:08 user11 Resolution open => no change required
2010-12-20 16:08 user11 Assigned To => user11
2010-12-20 16:08 user11 Tag Attached: Save Included
2010-12-20 16:14 user11 Note Added: 0014653
2010-12-20 16:14 user11 Status resolved => new
2010-12-20 16:49 Winter born Note Added: 0014654
2010-12-20 17:01 user11 Note Added: 0014656
2010-12-20 18:14 Winter born Note Added: 0014660
2010-12-20 19:04 user11 Note Added: 0014663
2010-12-20 19:04 user11 Tag Attached: Save Needs Testing
2010-12-20 19:05 user11 Status new => assigned
2010-12-20 19:05 user11 Description Updated
2010-12-20 19:06 user11 Summary Mason took over Masons Workshop Muttering "Vabokazin Ilash Otthat" => Possessed Dwarf Claims Mason's Workshop and a Raw Gem, Starts Construction But Never Completes
2010-12-20 19:06 user11 Description Updated
2010-12-20 19:07 user11 Assigned To user11 =>
2010-12-20 19:07 user11 Assigned To => user11
2010-12-20 19:07 user11 Status assigned => new
2010-12-20 19:07 user11 Assigned To user11 =>
2010-12-20 20:37 Winter born Note Added: 0014664
2010-12-21 05:57 Winter born Note Edited: 0014664
2011-02-06 15:16 user11 Resolution no change required => open