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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0005172 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Justice | public | 2012-02-16 06:11 | 2012-10-17 09:17 |
| Reporter | vaderflag | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | low | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | sometimes |
| Status | new | Resolution | open | ||
| Summary | 0005172: Hammering gets downgraded to beating if no restraint (rope/chain) has been built | ||||
| Description | An dwarf accused of 8 murders has after each only received a beating by the captain of the guard. The vampire now has "no sentence pending" and is free to strike again. The captain is wielding a war hammer, and the hammerer position has been appointed -- but yet no hammering has been applied. | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | 1. Wait for vampire immigrant to appear and murder 2. Accuse a dwarf (preferably the guilty party) of the murder 3. Watch a light sentence be administered by the justice system | ||||
| Tags | 0.34.02 | ||||
| has duplicate | 0005762 | resolved | Vampire kills four, gets convicted, sentenced to beating (also, spouse not reporting murder he saw) | |
| related to | 0001016 | resolved | Toady One | Captain of the guard performs beating with combat weapon. |
| related to | 0005532 | resolved | dwarf punches criminal instead of using a weapon | |
| related to | 0006406 | new | Criminal sentenced to jail followed by hammerstrikes, hammerer does repeated cage/uncage |
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Yeah, this is a problem. My vampire got sentenced to 200 days in prison for two murders. No death sentence. I locked him in so he can't strike again, but he doesn't seem to be dying of thirst/hunger so all I can do is to keep him imprisoned behind the locked door for eternity. |
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Got one sentenced to 100 hammerstrikes. Now it's been downgraded to a beating. |
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HammerDave: unless it's changed since 40d, hammerstrikes can only be delivered to dwarves that are restrained in a Jail (which prevents then from getting away). |
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Building a restraint (iron chain in my case) resolved the problem, for the next murder. The hammerer dragged the accused to a chain, went to get a hammer, and then started whacking away. I'd like to leave this in bug status though. Instead of just downgrading the sentence, shouldn't we get a cancel message with "no restraint available"? Back in the day when the most common kind of criminal was a random craftsdwarf charged with violating production orders due to an unreasonable demand, it made sense to exploit the justice system to force downgraded sentences. But now, when a vampire kills my legendary stonecrafter I want justice. There is also opportunity for a more dwarven response from the hammerer. We should get a "build a restraint" demand and he should go nuts if you don't satisfy it. :D But that's new function IMO. |
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This problem is still present in 0.34.07, and here is a save and a screenshot. Screenshot: http://oi42.tinypic.com/6riwdt.jpg Save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=6085 |
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HammerDave: A variant of "build a restraint" actually exists in the form of an unhappy thought for the Sheriff/Captain of the Guard if you have insufficient jails, though it's currently broken due to 0005844. Perhaps a variant could be added to the Hammerer that insists on a certain number of jails being restraints instead of cages. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2012-02-16 06:11 | vaderflag | New Issue | |
| 2012-02-16 06:28 | Orkel2 | Note Added: 0019777 | |
| 2012-02-20 00:22 | etherflan | Tag Attached: 0.34.02 | |
| 2012-03-02 09:21 | HammerDave | Note Added: 0020995 | |
| 2012-03-02 13:29 | Quietust | Note Added: 0021001 | |
| 2012-03-02 13:30 | Quietust | Note Edited: 0021001 | |
| 2012-03-05 09:00 |
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Relationship added | related to 0001016 |
| 2012-03-05 10:56 | HammerDave | Note Added: 0021132 | |
| 2012-03-05 11:53 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0005532 |
| 2012-03-05 11:56 |
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Summary | Accused murderer/vampire receives mild beating instead of death penalty => Hammering gets downgraded to beating if no restraint is available |
| 2012-04-06 08:12 |
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Summary | Hammering gets downgraded to beating if no restraint is available => Hammering gets downgraded to beating if no restraint (rope/chain) has been built |
| 2012-04-06 08:12 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0005762 |
| 2012-04-06 12:12 | AbuDhabi | Note Added: 0022134 | |
| 2012-10-17 09:17 | Quietust | Note Added: 0023664 | |
| 2014-01-13 09:38 |
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Relationship added | related to 0006406 |
| 2015-07-08 09:42 | lethosor | Relationship replaced | related to 0005532 |
