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0000618Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Reclaimpublic2014-01-27 20:09
Reporteroliver Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status newResolutionopen 
Platformnative WindowsOSWindows XPOS VersionSP3
Product Version0.31.01 
Summary0000618: Caged goblins are freed after reclaiming
DescriptionMy fortress got attacked after less than a year by a squad of well-equipped goblin macemen.

Needless to say, much Fun was had. Cage traps initially accounted for most of the squad, but the last two proceeded to incapacitate my entire population. The final goblin wandered into a cage trap while trying to kill the last of my dwarves, and then I abandoned since I had no able-bodied dwarves left to treat the wounded. At this point there were 5 caged goblins in cage traps.

On reclaim, the goblins were (a) mysteriously uncaged, and (b) listed as Friendly on the unit list. And indeed, they do not seem to be aggressive towards my dwarves.

Trying to kill the goblins doesn't work. Giving my reclaim squad a Kill order, I can target the goblins, and the squad will run over to the target, but then they will not actually attack.
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related to 0000252 acknowledgeduser6 When reclaim Goblins are friendly 
has duplicate 0001976 closedLogical2u Will not attack friendlies, no matter what. 
related to 0000863 resolvedToady One Items that are tasked when fortress is abandoned are still tasked (invisibly) on reclaim, and other reclaim oddities 

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Logical2u

2010-04-06 07:31

manager   ~0001438

Duplicate of 0000252

oliver

2010-04-06 07:35

reporter   ~0001440

Yep, didn't find that for some reason.
Is the un-caging expected, though?

Logical2u

2010-04-06 07:51

manager   ~0001444

Basically during an abandon/reclaim, anything that's caged will get released, at least that's the way it's been since the last version. (A lot of other stuff happens too, but it's been so long since I did a thorough test in adventurer mode that I can't say for sure any more)

This has led to "megaprojects" of creating a goblin retirement home, goblin fortress, etc, on the forums.

oliver

2010-04-06 08:05

reporter   ~0001450

Ok, so about the only remaining thing in this report is that you can select a Friendly unit for a kill order, but it is not effective. (Either you shouldn't be able to select them, or the squad should actually attack - I'd say you should be able to attack, given the sandbox nature of the rest of the game)

Logical2u

2010-04-06 08:10

manager   ~0001453

Might be related to 0000481 then.

If you save and reload, does the kill order work then?

oliver

2010-04-06 17:21

reporter   ~0001618

This is not a dupe of 481.

oliver

2010-04-06 18:25

reporter   ~0001634

Saving/reloading does not change the behaviour.

DoctorZuber

2010-04-10 11:56

reporter   ~0002622

Last edited: 2010-04-10 11:56

okay, so are you saying that caged hostile monsters letting themselves out and converting to friendly monsters on reclaim is . . . expected behavior ?

user6

2010-06-10 17:07

  ~0008092

Toady has started asking for saves for military/equipment bugs, so if you have a save demonstrating this problem, it might be helpful to upload it to http://dffd.wimbli.com/. Thanks!

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Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-06 07:09 oliver New Issue
2010-04-06 07:31 Logical2u Note Added: 0001438
2010-04-06 07:35 oliver Note Added: 0001440
2010-04-06 07:51 Logical2u Note Added: 0001444
2010-04-06 08:05 oliver Note Added: 0001450
2010-04-06 08:10 Logical2u Note Added: 0001453
2010-04-06 09:25 user6 Relationship added duplicate of 0000252
2010-04-06 09:25 user6 Status new => resolved
2010-04-06 09:25 user6 Resolution open => duplicate
2010-04-06 09:25 user6 Assigned To => user6
2010-04-06 09:26 user6 Status resolved => new
2010-04-06 09:27 user6 Relationship added duplicate of 0000481
2010-04-06 13:11 user6 Assigned To user6 =>
2010-04-06 17:21 oliver Note Added: 0001618
2010-04-06 18:25 oliver Note Added: 0001634
2010-04-07 10:38 user6 Status new => resolved
2010-04-07 10:38 user6 Assigned To => user6
2010-04-10 11:52 user6 Assigned To user6 =>
2010-04-10 11:52 user6 Status resolved => new
2010-04-10 11:52 user6 Resolution duplicate => open
2010-04-10 11:52 user6 Summary Reclaiming after a pyrrhic victory leads to friendly ex-caged goblins => Order to kill "friendly" goblins at reclaimed site doesn't work
2010-04-10 11:52 user6 Relationship replaced child of 0000481
2010-04-10 11:56 DoctorZuber Note Added: 0002622
2010-04-10 11:56 DoctorZuber Note Edited: 0002622
2010-04-27 14:44 user6 Relationship replaced related to 0000252
2010-05-19 16:29 Logical2u Relationship added has duplicate 0001976
2010-06-10 17:07 user6 Note Added: 0008092
2010-07-04 10:32 user6 Summary Order to kill "friendly" goblins at reclaimed site doesn't work => Caged goblins are freed after reclaiming
2010-07-04 10:34 user6 Relationship added child of 0000863
2010-07-04 10:34 user6 Relationship deleted child of 0000481
2010-07-04 10:34 user6 Relationship deleted related to 0000252
2010-11-03 05:00 Toady One Relationship replaced related to 0000863
2014-01-27 20:09 user6 Relationship added related to 0000252