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0007819Dwarf FortressWorld Generation -- Constructionspublic2014-08-03 09:242014-08-04 07:44
Reportersmjjames Assigned Touser6 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityrandom
Status assignedResolutionopen 
PlatformWindows 8 
Product Version0.40.05 
Summary0007819: Towns screwed up by rivers in worldgen sometimes
DescriptionI actually had this in another save, but I figured it was just a fluke or something, but it happened a second time.

The image shows it better than I could probably describe.

I've also noticed that hamlets sometimes generate with development on only one side of a river, but all structures are there.
Steps To ReproduceRandom, just have to happen to find one. Might be semi-random, but if it happened twice in two different worlds....

Savegame: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9263

Worldgen parameters, the town is Brandpant.

[WORLD_GEN]
    [TITLE:MEDIUM REGION]
    [SEED:BU01HsA4oPHY5osthwjf]
    [HISTORY_SEED:ejnN4C9uPtAenNpjSpwd]
    [NAME_SEED:gdhj1gDLde7zRkglJ3jp]
    [CREATURE_SEED:hdQtG0sXUtyunmWYohNC]
    [DIM:129:129]
    [EMBARK_POINTS:1324]
    [END_YEAR:300]
    [BEAST_END_YEAR:200:80]
    [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
    [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
    [ELEVATION:1:400:401:401]
    [RAINFALL:0:100:200:200]
    [TEMPERATURE:50:75:200:200]
    [DRAINAGE:0:100:200:200]
    [VOLCANISM:0:100:200:200]
    [SAVAGERY:0:100:200:200]
    [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [MINERAL_SCARCITY:500]
    [MEGABEAST_CAP:16]
    [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:36]
    [TITAN_NUMBER:5]
    [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
    [DEMON_NUMBER:28]
    [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:28]
    [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:0]
    [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:28]
    [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:28]
    [SECRET_NUMBER:1]
    [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:28]
    [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:28]
    [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:14]
    [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:14]
    [GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:1]
    [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:25:251:503]
    [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:25:251:503]
    [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:12]
    [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:1]
    [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [VOLCANO_MIN:3]
    [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:260:1:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:260:1:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:1040:3:3]
    [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:2080:2:2]
    [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:2080:1:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:2080:3:3]
    [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:2080:3:3]
    [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
    [RIVER_MINS:100:100]
    [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
    [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
    [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:75]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:50]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
    [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
    [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
    [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
    [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:25]
    [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:50]
    [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
    [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
    [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:40]
    [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
    [SITE_CAP:1040]
    [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
    [ELEVATION_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [RAIN_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [DRAINAGE_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [SAVAGERY_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [VOLCANISM_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
Additional InformationScreenshot: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/smjjames/Untitled_zps3a3c6543.png
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smjjames

2014-08-03 09:28

reporter   ~0028216

The river also generated a bit strangely in that location since there is a tiny river there which is connecting awkwardly.

lethosor

2014-08-03 10:00

manager   ~0028219

Is the problem simply the fact that the town is on one side of the river, or is there something else I'm not noticing?

smjjames

2014-08-03 10:06

reporter   ~0028222

Last edited: 2014-08-03 10:08

 Well, the keep is separated from the roads and the buildings aren't around the keep as they should be.

There is a small market a shop, a well, a few houses, but they're all scattered on the other side of the river.

smjjames

2014-08-03 17:30

reporter   ~0028250

@lethosor, you tell me if it looks normal to have the keep there with no roads connected to it.

Anyways, another example, has something to do with the major rivers since they aren't able to build bridges over them.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9269

Town is Heatmessiah

[WORLD_GEN]
    [TITLE:MEDIUM REGION]
    [SEED:gGsHW9ea5pfl2e2fEHAa]
    [HISTORY_SEED:mgLiWMplvgBTR3FOJVTw]
    [NAME_SEED:Gf6WIaJlH5iIO61i6KSm]
    [CREATURE_SEED:KB7qNWg0IpDMqr8j7Gcz]
    [DIM:129:129]
    [EMBARK_POINTS:1324]
    [END_YEAR:300]
    [BEAST_END_YEAR:200:80]
    [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
    [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
    [ELEVATION:1:400:401:401]
    [RAINFALL:0:100:200:200]
    [TEMPERATURE:50:75:200:200]
    [DRAINAGE:0:100:200:200]
    [VOLCANISM:0:100:200:200]
    [SAVAGERY:0:100:200:200]
    [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [MINERAL_SCARCITY:500]
    [MEGABEAST_CAP:16]
    [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:36]
    [TITAN_NUMBER:5]
    [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
    [DEMON_NUMBER:28]
    [NIGHT_TROLL_NUMBER:28]
    [BOGEYMAN_NUMBER:0]
    [VAMPIRE_NUMBER:28]
    [WEREBEAST_NUMBER:28]
    [SECRET_NUMBER:1]
    [REGIONAL_INTERACTION_NUMBER:28]
    [DISTURBANCE_INTERACTION_NUMBER:28]
    [EVIL_CLOUD_NUMBER:14]
    [EVIL_RAIN_NUMBER:14]
    [GENERATE_DIVINE_MATERIALS:1]
    [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:25:251:503]
    [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:25:251:503]
    [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:12]
    [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:1]
    [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [VOLCANO_MIN:3]
    [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:260:1:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:260:1:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:1040:3:3]
    [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:2080:2:2]
    [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:2080:1:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:2080:3:3]
    [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:2080:3:3]
    [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
    [RIVER_MINS:100:100]
    [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
    [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
    [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:75]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:50]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:15]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:5]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
    [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
    [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
    [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
    [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:25]
    [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:50]
    [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
    [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
    [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:40]
    [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
    [SITE_CAP:1040]
    [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
    [ELEVATION_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [RAIN_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [DRAINAGE_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [SAVAGERY_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [VOLCANISM_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]

user6

2014-08-03 23:21

  ~0028260

Does 0007256 cover it?

smjjames

2014-08-04 07:30

reporter   ~0028271

Last edited: 2014-08-04 07:34

 Well, if it's not connected to the hamlet itself via roads, maybe. Without a save or screenshot to show what the exact bug is, I'm not sure how much 0007256 covers it. I mean, I've seen plenty of mead halls that were on the edge of the hamlet site itself, but haven't seen any that were not connected via road or otherise detached from the hamlet.


It is related in the way that it's a worldgen problem. If the mead hall is detached from the hamlet and not connected via the roads or bridges, then yes, it probably covers it.

I suspect the cause behind this one is the fact that they are unable to build bridges over wide major rivers.

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Date Modified Username Field Change
2014-08-03 09:24 smjjames New Issue
2014-08-03 09:28 smjjames Note Added: 0028216
2014-08-03 09:58 lethosor Additional Information Updated
2014-08-03 10:00 lethosor Note Added: 0028219
2014-08-03 10:06 smjjames Note Added: 0028222
2014-08-03 10:08 smjjames Note Edited: 0028222
2014-08-03 17:30 smjjames Note Added: 0028250
2014-08-03 23:21 user6 Note Added: 0028260
2014-08-03 23:21 user6 Assigned To => user6
2014-08-03 23:21 user6 Status new => feedback
2014-08-04 07:30 smjjames Note Added: 0028271
2014-08-04 07:30 smjjames Status feedback => assigned
2014-08-04 07:34 smjjames Note Edited: 0028271
2014-08-04 07:44 user6 Relationship added related to 0007256