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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0002323Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Constructions (walls etc)public2010-06-14 00:062016-07-22 21:16
Reportercognitive Assigned ToLoci  
PrioritynormalSeveritytweakReproducibilityalways
Status resolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformpcOSvistaOS Versionsp 2
Product Version0.31.04 
Summary0002323: Mason skill not increased by building walls and other constructions
Descriptionwhen building walls (just build over 2000 spaces worth) no mason gained experience. when building doors/furniture they do.
Steps To Reproducebuild walls
TagsHoldover from 40d?, Intentional/Expected?

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related to 0002948 new Stone hauling/construction doesn't increase strength 

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Cryten

2010-06-14 02:18

reporter   ~0008398

I believe mansonry does not cover the bulding of objects, thats Architecture, which dosnt have a skill growth pattern.
No change required.

Rafal99

2010-06-14 05:28

reporter   ~0008401

Architecture covers bulding objects that need an architect (bridges and furnaces for example). Building stone walls used to give experience in mason skill. I think my masons had no problem with it in a fortress I played in 0.31.03, possibly requires some specific circumstances.

user6

2010-06-14 05:32

  ~0008402

Building stone walls used to give experience in mason skill. I think my masons had no problem with it in a fortress I played in 0.31.03, possibly requires some specific circumstances.

Nope, I don't think it's ever worked that way.

cognitive

2010-06-14 13:24

reporter   ~0008424

in 40d i built a large wall with about 10 dwarves and they all had leveled up greatly, will check again later tonight

Cryten

2010-06-14 19:59

reporter   ~0008447

I built a wall as a way of testing this in 40d13. The wall was aprox 250 tiles wide built with 5 dwarves while two dwarves minded to provide stone. This took 1 and a half seaons to complete. No skillups of any kind where recorded outside of mining and coversational skills. I checked each individuals skills.

Architecture and building of buildings does not contribute to masonry skillups.

smjjames

2010-06-14 20:01

reporter   ~0008448

@Cryten: Yep, otherwise you would end up with most of your dwarves being masons from just building your megaproject.

user6

2010-06-14 20:09

  ~0008449

Thanks for testing that, Cryten.

king doom

2010-08-04 11:32

reporter   ~0011496

If it is intentional, it's a very bad descision. Building a wall isn't just stacking rocks on top of each other, bricklaying is a skill, and with practise you get better at it, and since it's added to masonry, you should get skill increases in that.

Lord Byte

2010-08-15 17:28

reporter   ~0011820

I agree with king doom. Megaprojects should be rare cases, and not the norm to which you compare the entire game. So balancing it out for that is kind of ridiculous (plus that argument falls flat when miners DO gain skill increases from carving out that megaproject :))

I got one mason to build certain objects while most of my masons are tied up in building constructions. So it's ridiculous that they will never gain any skill in it (Another solution is to make carving rock objects a seperate skill (sculptor or something).

Loci

2016-07-22 21:16

viewer   ~0035677

Building constructions is now an unskilled labor separate from the mason skill.

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-06-14 00:06 cognitive New Issue
2010-06-14 02:18 Cryten Note Added: 0008398
2010-06-14 05:28 Rafal99 Note Added: 0008401
2010-06-14 05:32 user6 Note Added: 0008402
2010-06-14 05:32 user6 Tag Attached: Intentional?
2010-06-14 13:24 cognitive Note Added: 0008424
2010-06-14 19:59 Cryten Note Added: 0008447
2010-06-14 20:01 smjjames Note Added: 0008448
2010-06-14 20:08 user6 Tag Detached: Intentional?
2010-06-14 20:09 user6 Note Added: 0008449
2010-06-14 20:09 user6 Status new => resolved
2010-06-14 20:09 user6 Resolution open => no change required
2010-06-14 20:09 user6 Assigned To => user6
2010-08-04 08:21 user6 Assigned To user6 =>
2010-08-04 08:21 user6 Status resolved => feedback
2010-08-04 08:21 user6 Resolution no change required => reopened
2010-08-04 08:21 user6 Status feedback => new
2010-08-04 08:23 user6 Relationship added related to 0002948
2010-08-04 08:25 user6 Summary building walls does not increase mason level => Mason skill not increased by building walls and other constructions
2010-08-04 10:09 dree12 Tag Attached: Holdover from 40d?
2010-08-04 10:09 dree12 Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2010-08-04 11:32 king doom Note Added: 0011496
2010-08-15 17:28 Lord Byte Note Added: 0011820
2016-07-22 21:16 Loci Note Added: 0035677
2016-07-22 21:16 Loci Status new => resolved
2016-07-22 21:16 Loci Resolution reopened => fixed
2016-07-22 21:16 Loci Assigned To => Loci