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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0000309Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Jobs, Healthcarepublic2014-11-25 22:58
ReporterGreyhawk Assigned Touser11 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
Status confirmedResolutionopen 
PlatformWindowsOSVistaOS Versionsp1
Product Version0.31.01 
Summary0000309: Injured dwarves won't/can't rest
DescriptionShoulders, false rib and heart red (compound fractures). The health screen says one wound needs setting.

The dwarf stopped resting after the diagnosis and never visited the newly built hospital.
Steps To Reproduce1. Miner falls, get red wounds and unconscious
2. No hospital yet, so another dwarf brings the miner to dormitory.
3. Assign the chief medical role on noble screen (novice at most med skills).
4. Wait for diagnosis, injured dwarf will get up afterword.
5. Check health of injured dwarf. Status page shows wounds and the need for setting the wound. The first page says no injuries though!
6. Build hospital, put in that special table, normal tables/cabinets/chests/bags/beds and the dwarves deliver all but powder and soap (had powder but bugged like in 0000194).
7. Injured Dwarf continues working while flashing the injured state. After a month still hasn't visited hospital.
Tagshealthcare

Relationships

parent of 0001494 new injured dwarf 'cannot stand' too tough to rest but can't move. 
parent of 0000165 resolveduser6 Dwarves in hospital beds "fall out" and stay on the ground. 
parent of 0002515 resolveduser6 Injured dwarf goes on break, is no longer being treated during or afterwards 
parent of 0001941 new Unconcious dwarf in hospital has "soldier" as status and isn't being healed 
parent of 0002585 acknowledgeduser11 Injured soldiers stop resting when alert state changes 
parent of 0002930 acknowledgeduser11 Dwarf is Unwilling to die, or get better. 
parent of 0002968 new Dwarf recovery problems and dwarves leaving hospital to handle their needs personally, cancelling care 
parent of 0003490 new wounded dwarfes will continue to work, even when treatment is assigned 
has duplicate 0002314 resolveduser6 Dwarf with broken finger and nose not requiring a diagnosis at all 
has duplicate 0001077 resolveduser6 Extremely wounded dwarf won't stay in bed 
has duplicate 0002911 resolveduser6 Injured dwarf never gets treatment assigned 
has duplicate 0003631 resolveduser6 Seriously Injured Dwarf in Hospital decides to 'Get Provisions'; thereafter acts uninjured 
related to 0000306 resolvedToady One Injured soldier tries to pick up equipment with broken arms- message spam 
related to 0002080 new Beaten dwarf ignores wounds 
related to 0002747 resolvedToady One A dwarf unable to stand manages to get up when in a strange mood 
related to 0000681 resolvedToady One Legless/footless dwarfs are ignored by healthcare 
related to 0002816 resolvedToady One Dwarves on operating table count as out of bed, trigger recover wounded job 
related to 0003403 acknowledgeduser11 Dwarf 1 injured by tantrumming military dwarf 2 does not receive any healthcare 
related to 0001955 acknowledgeduser11 dwarves rest outside of the hospital zone 
related to 0006344 acknowledgeduser11 Dwarf never sought healthcare 
related to 0006102 acknowledgeduser11 Injured military dwarves won't seek treatment, die 
related to 0001226 acknowledgeduser11 Removing hospital zone and bed makes dwarves stop trying to rest 
related to 0004498 confirmeduser6 Dwarves with lingering medical problems 
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Jiri Petru

2010-04-16 14:00

reporter   ~0003898

Last edited: 2010-04-16 14:02

Seconding. I have a soldier with shattered left upper arm and elbow. His health screen says he needs surgery (amongst other things) on both places. Yet, after being diagnosed and perhaps cleaned, he just got up and went back to duty.

...and i THINK he's had a failed surgery that hasn't done anything.

DarthCloakedDwarf

2010-04-24 16:23

reporter   ~0004928

I have a dwarf that I refer to jokingly as Lefty. He can't use one of his arms, he is grasp impaired and flashing yellow, but he is happily going about his business with no issues.

Hugna

2010-04-24 16:30

reporter   ~0004930

The wiki actually said Hospital actions are bugged, so more than likely, it's known. I'm actually hoping it's fixed so i can keep a fort standing.

axus

2010-04-25 10:29

reporter   ~0005009

This might be an issue in addition to the doctors repeating work over and over. I'm seeing the same thing with a miner, he will get up and do some work with 4 red wounds. 2 of them need surgery, they all need a lot of work according to health screen. Later I will find him back in the hospital resting. The doctor tries to do things for him when he is in the hospital, but they fail due to the other bug.

The issue is... dwarves leaving the hospital when they've got serious injuries. People do this in real life (try to leave the hospital when it's medically very stupid), so I can't 100% call it a "bug", but it's probably not intentional.

I think when the repeat doctoring bug is fixed, there will still be dwarves that leave the hospital early only to come back later. But it might be OK, once the main bug is fixed eventually they will get patched up properly and not need to return to the hospital.

Cromage

2010-04-28 01:50

reporter   ~0005492

I noticed this too; I got a message that said "Surgeon cancels Surgery: Patient Not Resting" as well.

CultOftheRaven

2010-05-09 07:40

reporter   ~0006447

I have a soldier that got red injuries on his arm and leg, got the diagnosis, and then promptly went back to soldiering. 3 years later he's a legendary speardwarf, and functioning completely fine despite flashing red and supposedly requiring surgery. I have a hospital that seems to be working fine except for one or two other bugs, and I know it was working and I had doctors before the dwarf in question was injured.

gruftschreck

2010-05-10 14:24

reporter   ~0006515

Had the same bug too today. A dwarf had a smashed third toe and went to hospital, but he got out of hospital shortly afterwards, the message "Urist McMedicineDwarf cancels Surgery: Dwarf not resting" is being displayed from time to time.

gruftschreck

2010-05-11 11:17

reporter   ~0006553

more interesting to say the above mentioned dwarf gets back into hospital from time to time where the doctor fails with the surgery and then gets back up again afterwards. Can be reproduced at any time.

derigo

2010-05-16 05:57

reporter   ~0006762

I have a mason that was nearly killed in a cave in. His Both his legs, his right hip, both his arms, and his ear (?) are fractured. He got fed up with surgery, and went back to work building my pit-of-doom with the other masons. He is always "Faint" because his injuries are so severe.

On the other end of the spectrum I have a dwarf with a bruised foot that stays in bed 100% of the time. /sigh ;p

derigo

2010-05-16 22:37

reporter   ~0006851

Still seeing this in .04. What's more the patients this affects are still presenting the 'infinite surgery' bug that was supposed to be fixed.

This is an .03 save being played in .04. Patients lie there for a really long time with the surgeon sitting on their heads, after a while the patients get bored, get up and continue working despite debilitating injuries. Medical history shows no sign of surgery.

JimboOmega

2010-07-15 12:39

reporter   ~0010365

Last edited: 2010-07-15 12:58

I have seen this in .10 No infinite surgery, but patients get very impatient with healthcare and march off, despite serious injuries. Some have been treated successfully, though, they tend to have less serious injuries.

I also have a child who was cleaned, and (perhaps because nobody had the labor enabled and/or there were plaster issues), stays in bed but is never treated and never heals.

Update: I was able to get them to lay down and be treated by removing all labors. Though one is stuck in a cancels clean self: location inaccessible loop.

Orkel2

2010-07-23 10:32

reporter   ~0010876

This happened to me in .11 just now. Patient has broken shoulder and ankle but walked off in the middle of suturing and hasn't gone back to the hospital.

E1727

2010-08-02 09:58

reporter   ~0011403

The two or three dwarves that have done this to me have all been "quick to heal" - and indeed, they went from red wounds to brown in a couple weeks of game time.

It's somewhat amusing that, due to the "patients never get crutches" bug, a "very quick to heal" dwarf with a mangled heart and an upper body and arms both beat to shit will be up and moving long before a "quick to heal" dwarf with a mere broken right leg.

toybasher

2010-08-13 12:31

reporter   ~0011767

COuld it be related to (0001534) ?

Most of these reports involve broken bones and joints

troas

2010-09-19 15:14

reporter   ~0012825

This is still happening in 31.12. Also I have several patients wounded after an ambush who are resting in the hospital but not being attended to (I have multiple medical dwarves with No Job), and others who have infections which also do not appear to be being diagnosed/treated. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3137

xellas84

2010-09-21 19:25

reporter   ~0012875

I saw this just today in 31.13. Had an unfortunate cavein incident, injured the miner I was training. Shattered his legs totally, both legs red, both hips red, knocked him unconscious for a good long time. I had a hospital up and running, with a CMD with all the skills enabled (as well as 2 dedicated doctors and a nurse), but NOBODY went to recover him. After a while, he came out of being unconscious, got up, and walked all the way to the hospital on his own.

InsanityPrelude

2010-11-16 16:50

reporter   ~0013940

In the midst of a fatal tantrum spiral in 3.16 recently, I noticed a couple dwarves with pop-outs laid there for a surprisingly long time without dying, even though the de facto doctors couldn't treat them because they either kept tantruming or being interrupted by other dwarves' tantrums, or insisted on stitching up dwarves with less serious injuries first.

Anyway, point is, you'd think with their guts hanging out (and dwarves walking over the tiles with ~s on them!) they wouldn't last for days like that.

nordak

2010-11-22 22:46

reporter   ~0014158

Same, dwarf had every bone broken, novice diagnose checked him and he just got up and went about his business as though nothing had hit him with a warhammer...

3.18

The joke is that the diagnostician had Legendary Bluff +5... Yea about those bones, they're fine... In fact they appear to be made of Adamantine.

user6

2011-02-28 21:17

  ~0015616

duckthatquacks posted a save for a similar issue at 0001077:0010789:
Bugged save posted at http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2768 The dwarf in question is Rakust Datanottem.

ZzarkLinux

2011-09-29 18:10

reporter   ~0018765

My hospital has been working well in v31.25, so maybe try to upgrade your version and see if you can reproduce.

Sometimes dwarves with yellow status don't wanna go to the hospital. But severely wounded dwarves seem to treat okay in 31.25

Kogut

2012-04-02 06:50

reporter   ~0022026

Last edited: 2012-04-02 06:56

34.07: http://dffd.wimbli.com/submit.php?action=message&fid=6071 dwarf ('Soldier' Alathumer) is marked as diagnosis required, diagnosis is not appearing in job list, CMD is sitting with "no job" as wounded dwarf is not resting

As bonus - the same dwarf is thirsty, no job is generated, plenty of idlers.

WORKAROUND: deconstruct bed below dwarf

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-03 14:32 Greyhawk New Issue
2010-04-03 14:32 Greyhawk Tag Attached: healthcare
2010-04-04 13:47 user6 Relationship added related to 0000306
2010-04-13 09:21 user6 Relationship replaced child of 0000306
2010-04-16 14:00 Jiri Petru Note Added: 0003898
2010-04-16 14:02 Jiri Petru Note Edited: 0003898
2010-04-16 14:02 Jiri Petru Note Edited: 0003898
2010-04-24 16:23 DarthCloakedDwarf Note Added: 0004928
2010-04-24 16:30 Hugna Note Added: 0004930
2010-04-25 10:29 axus Note Added: 0005009
2010-04-28 01:50 Cromage Note Added: 0005492
2010-05-09 07:40 CultOftheRaven Note Added: 0006447
2010-05-10 14:24 gruftschreck Note Added: 0006515
2010-05-11 11:17 gruftschreck Note Added: 0006553
2010-05-16 05:57 derigo Note Added: 0006762
2010-05-16 22:37 derigo Note Added: 0006851
2010-06-13 18:18 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0002314
2010-07-07 15:42 user6 Relationship added related to 0002080
2010-07-07 15:42 user6 Relationship replaced related to 0000306
2010-07-07 15:43 user6 Relationship added parent of 0001077
2010-07-07 15:43 user6 Relationship added parent of 0001494
2010-07-07 15:43 user6 Relationship added parent of 0000165
2010-07-07 15:43 user6 Relationship added parent of 0002515
2010-07-07 15:44 user6 Sticky Issue No => Yes
2010-07-07 15:44 user6 Relationship added parent of 0001941
2010-07-07 15:45 user6 Relationship added parent of 0002585
2010-07-15 12:39 JimboOmega Note Added: 0010365
2010-07-15 12:58 JimboOmega Note Edited: 0010365
2010-07-18 08:51 user6 Relationship added related to 0002747
2010-07-23 10:32 Orkel2 Note Added: 0010876
2010-07-24 13:26 Yorick Tag Attached: gypsum
2010-07-24 13:26 Yorick Tag Detached: gypsum
2010-08-01 00:11 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0002911
2010-08-02 09:58 E1727 Note Added: 0011403
2010-08-02 13:02 user6 Relationship added parent of 0002930
2010-08-03 09:43 user6 Relationship added related to 0000681
2010-08-07 01:29 user6 Relationship added parent of 0002968
2010-08-09 07:22 user6 Relationship added related to 0002816
2010-08-13 12:31 toybasher Note Added: 0011767
2010-09-19 15:14 troas Note Added: 0012825
2010-09-21 19:25 xellas84 Note Added: 0012875
2010-10-31 17:49 Logical2u Relationship added parent of 0003490
2010-11-15 13:57 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0003631
2010-11-16 13:38 user6 Relationship added parent of 0003403
2010-11-16 16:50 InsanityPrelude Note Added: 0013940
2010-11-22 22:46 nordak Note Added: 0014158
2011-02-28 21:17 user6 Note Added: 0015616
2011-02-28 21:18 user6 Relationship replaced has duplicate 0001077
2011-02-28 21:21 user6 Relationship added related to 0001955
2011-09-29 18:10 ZzarkLinux Note Added: 0018765
2012-03-05 08:38 user6 Summary 4 red wounds (inc heart) and after diagnosis the injured dwarf gets back up and works with no problems. => Injured dwarves won't/can't rest
2012-03-05 09:08 user6 Relationship replaced related to 0003403
2012-04-02 06:50 Kogut Note Added: 0022026
2012-04-02 06:55 Kogut Note Edited: 0022026
2012-04-02 06:56 Kogut Note Edited: 0022026
2013-06-24 04:51 user1294 Relationship added related to 0006344
2014-01-26 10:18 user6 Relationship added related to 0006102
2014-01-27 20:02 user6 Relationship added related to 0001226
2014-08-09 12:06 user11 Assigned To => user11
2014-08-09 12:06 user11 Status new => confirmed
2014-12-27 19:38 user6 Relationship added related to 0004498