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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0005299 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Nobles | public | 2012-02-19 07:02 | 2019-01-25 13:14 |
| Reporter | cyhawk | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | have not tried |
| Status | confirmed | Resolution | open | ||
| Platform | Mac | OS | Mac OS X | OS Version | 10.7 |
| Product Version | 0.34.01 | ||||
| Summary | 0005299: If fortress population drops to 1 child or insane dwarf, can't appoint/elect nobles when migrants arrive | ||||
| Description | This is similar to issue 141 (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=141) but I could not figure out how to reopen that. What happened: I lost all my dwarves to a forgotten beast except for an unconscious child. After some time (weeks? months?) new migrants have arrived! But nobody takes the title of expedition leader and so I cannot appoint any nobles. Maybe if nobody is eligible to become the new leader at the time the old one dies the game won't try again later? | ||||
| Additional Information | Can provide save. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| related to | 0000141 | closed | Toady One | After death of expedition leader or mayor (any noble), positions disappear from nobles screen and can't be appointed or replaced |
| related to | 0007146 | new | Expedition Leader can have left the fort upon unretire, blanking out nobles screen. | |
| has duplicate | 0005579 | resolved | Nobles completely disabled | |
| has duplicate | 0004871 | resolved | Blank Nobles Screen | |
| has duplicate | 0005873 | resolved | Baron is not arriving even with requirements | |
| has duplicate | 0005975 | resolved | The assign nobles screen blanks out when all adults are dead, but children still survive. | |
| has duplicate | 0006122 | resolved | Noble screen blank after melancholy leader dies | |
| has duplicate | 0007993 | resolved | Expedition Leader not appointed/appointable. | |
| has duplicate | 0009639 | resolved | Can't select nobles after forgotten beast attack left only one survivor and shortly after 18 migrants arrived | |
| has duplicate | 0009934 | resolved | Loci | After die-off of all adult dwarves, fort not considered to fall; when migrants arrive, no new expedition leader appointed. |
| has duplicate | 0010791 | resolved | Loci | Positions Vanish for Noble Screen When Fort Reduced to Single "Monster Slayer" |
| related to | 0008129 | confirmed | Positions disappear from nobles screen when expedition leader is promoted to monarch | |
| related to | 0008644 | new | Nobles Screen left blank after Expedition Leader Died, Stay blank even after retire/unretire |
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Reminder sent to: cyhawk The save would be appreciated. You can upload to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ |
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Thanks, uploaded as http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5606. |
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I can confirm this issue. All dwarves died except for a child, and upon immigration, no new nobles can be appointed. Since there are hostiles left inside the fortress and I can't appoint a militia, it is impossible to continue playing. |
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Experiencing a similar bug, identical to issue # 0004871 (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=4871). Running v34.05. My Expedition Leader went melancholy as the last dwarf standing, and died shortly after the arrival of new migrants. No new leader was appointed, nor was a mayor elected after the fortress grew > 50. It seems that if there is no eligible successor when a leader passes, it breaks the appointment system. |
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I experienced a similar problem in version 0.34.10 I uploaded my save to the DFFD. http://dffd.wimbli.com/download.php?id=6459&f=region1+-+Copy.zip |
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I am having the exact same problem as Gruthar. A solo melancholy dwarf remained, new settlers arrived, and the melancholy dwarf died. Nobles screen is blank. The one possible conflating factor for me is that I am on a map with a lot of undead activity. There may be some chances that one of my old nobles is now walking dead but I can't find him and put him to rest. My surface has been overrun with 100-200 zombies for five years. I did notice some old dwarves resurrect and took new names when they did; constructing engraved slabs for them seemed to put them to rest. |
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Similar problem in 0.34.11 Lost 6 of the starting dwarf in an early tantrum spiral. The last survivor went crazy. Shortly after the first migration wave arrived and the crazy dwarf soon died. I was unable to appoint a new leader or any other noble. I waited another migration wave in case but the problem remained. |
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Similar/Same problem in 0.34.11 (linux) Tryed playing freezing, made a 2x2 farm plot, as undead creatures and other fun came about and killed everyone but my hunter. Hunter brewd a drink, went made, then migrants. (And they all died except 1 who was brewing a drink at the time..) Now the nobels screen is completly blank, cannot manage fortress. Link to save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8369 |
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Same problem 0.40.16 (windows, using lazy newb pack) Weremonitor killed my my fort except an infected child, migrants arrive, this bug. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10124 |
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In 0009639, MaryaClare said that at least in 0.42.06 a new mayor was elected after a time. |
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v0.43.05: unbeliever536 posted a save in 0009934: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12287 |
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Playing the same save forward, a new expedition leader actually *was* appointed shortly after an annual autosave. Not sure exactly what's going on. |
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Saw the same thing in 0.44.11 after a pesky werebeast epidemic. It seems to have fixed itself quickly though - I made a military shortly after getting some migrants (appointing the commander through the military screen, not the nobles screen). Next time I looked at the nobles screen, all was back to normal! |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2012-02-19 07:02 | cyhawk | New Issue | |
| 2012-02-19 07:51 |
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Relationship added | related to 0000141 |
| 2012-02-19 07:52 |
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Note Added: 0020118 | |
| 2012-02-19 08:25 | cyhawk | Note Added: 0020132 | |
| 2012-02-23 09:46 | timm | Note Added: 0020551 | |
| 2012-02-23 09:47 | timm | Note Edited: 0020551 | |
| 2012-02-23 10:36 |
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Summary | New expedition leader does not get elected => If fortress population drops to 1 child, can't appoint/elect nobles when migrants arrive |
| 2012-03-08 11:02 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0005579 |
| 2012-05-08 19:16 | Gruthar | Note Added: 0022458 | |
| 2012-05-14 08:43 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0004871 |
| 2012-05-14 08:45 |
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Relationship added | related to 0005873 |
| 2012-05-16 09:14 |
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Relationship replaced | has duplicate 0005873 |
| 2012-06-01 06:31 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0005975 |
| 2012-06-09 03:21 | un_def | Note Added: 0022930 | |
| 2012-07-23 02:15 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0006122 |
| 2012-07-23 02:17 |
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Summary | If fortress population drops to 1 child, can't appoint/elect nobles when migrants arrive => If fortress population drops to 1 child or insane dwarf, can't appoint/elect nobles when migrants arrive |
| 2012-07-23 16:32 | slam | Note Added: 0023334 | |
| 2012-07-23 16:33 | slam | Note Edited: 0023334 | |
| 2013-09-23 22:15 | Geaxle | Note Added: 0024136 | |
| 2014-01-27 10:56 | fu-fu | Note Added: 0024396 | |
| 2014-07-12 12:11 |
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Relationship added | related to 0007146 |
| 2014-08-13 18:23 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0007993 |
| 2014-08-13 18:23 |
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Assigned To | => user6 |
| 2014-08-13 18:23 |
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Status | new => confirmed |
| 2014-08-24 07:25 |
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Relationship added | related to 0008129 |
| 2014-11-24 12:11 | yd12k | Note Added: 0031151 | |
| 2014-12-20 13:58 |
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Relationship added | related to 0008644 |
| 2016-04-03 02:43 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0009639 |
| 2016-04-03 02:46 |
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Note Added: 0034970 | |
| 2016-07-22 22:07 | Loci | Relationship added | has duplicate 0009934 |
| 2016-07-22 22:08 | Loci | Note Added: 0035679 | |
| 2016-07-22 22:22 | unbeliever536 | Note Added: 0035682 | |
| 2018-06-17 13:35 | Loci | Relationship added | has duplicate 0010791 |
| 2019-01-25 13:14 | jaddle | Note Added: 0039151 | |
| 2019-01-25 16:32 | jaddle | Note Edited: 0039151 |
