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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0009275 | Dwarf Fortress | World Generation -- General | public | 2015-12-08 10:48 | 2023-01-15 11:10 |
| Reporter | Kumquat | Assigned To | lethosor | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | have not tried |
| Status | acknowledged | Resolution | open | ||
| Product Version | 0.42.02 | ||||
| Summary | 0009275: Elf-made instruments have nonsensical materials | ||||
| Description | My first elf caravan arrived and brought in some interesting items. In particular, instrument parts made of forgotten beast silk and a complete instrument where strings are made of 'pitch-black fabric'. Somehow these don't appear entirely intentional. | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | Generate enough random elf instruments. | ||||
| Additional Information | Apparently sometimes generated instruments require materials that their associated civilization is unable to produce; in case of elf civilization, metal, silk and leather. In this case the game will pick some completely random material (possibly uninitialized?) for it. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| related to | 0009223 | resolved | Toady One | In old save, existing musical instruments have ludicrous trade values |
| has duplicate | 0009663 | resolved | Caravan brought instruments made of demon bone | |
| has duplicate | 0010204 | resolved | Loci | Merchants trade divine materials |
| related to | 0010118 | acknowledged | lethosor | «grown wolf bone earring» |
| related to | 0010544 | confirmed | Loci | Elven caravan brought metal (gold, bronze), gem (black diamond) or stone (bismuthinite) pedestal |
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In my case elfs brought "a grown serpentine piccolo". Grown stone crafts? This was in 0.42.02 with a fort from 0.40.24. Save here, the object is in the depot: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11391 |
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Does this occur with saves that aren't from 0.40.24? |
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I saw Kumquat's (weird silks) bug in a world generated in 0.42.02. Didn't save it, sorry. I suspect it has to do with the fact that elves don't normally have access to silk materials, but can generate instruments with silk strings. I haven't seen Uggi's bug, though. |
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This has been happening in all saves created in .42.x so far. Elfs don't have silk or leather or glass, so they randomly use divine cloth and/or forgotten beast silk and whoknowswhat. Also, you don't get procedural instruments in migrated saves, I don't think? This also seems to be happening in adventure mode, based on various posts. |
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@uggi: the "grown" serpentine piccolo in your save is decorated with apple wood. Whether or not the piccolo should be marked "grown" is a separate issue (0010118). |
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I will supply a screenshot or save when i am able if i see it again and would recommend everybody else does too but the divine material templates Elves are using draw off god spheres in the world but not the ones even relevant to elves localized nature spirit monotheism religion type. In one such game anecdotally i had a multi-part stationary string instrument arrive in my 6th or 7th year elven caravan with divine metal of "liquid darkness" which in retrospect i think would have been from the relevant list of metal types, dark metal (darkness sphere) or a not yet wiki defined other sphere. >http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Divine_metal > Summarily goblins had pantheon enabled in my RAW modifications and no restrictions on what they could worship, hence the 'colourful' religious topics (death,gambling,darkness etc.) I think that material's sphere may have came from going into the elves in the same world. |
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@FantasticDorf: "liquid darkness" is a divine fabric from the "darkness" sphere: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Divine_fabric |
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This is an unmigrated 0.43.05 save showing an elf generated divine cloth instrument. The elf caravan currently occupying the depot has brought a (grown rotted fabric rithi) and expects to trade it for something ridiculous, like a whole stack of roasts. http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12968 |
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saw a caravan with 'screaming cloth (instrument) strings' too. problem is it was a human caravan, not elven. 47.03 with df hack and stuff |
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Just chiming in to say this report is still valid in version 50.05 (Steam), wherein I've just received an elven caravan carrying with them a 'translucent cloth fataba strings'. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2015-12-08 10:48 | Kumquat | New Issue | |
| 2015-12-21 09:22 | uggi | Note Added: 0034102 | |
| 2015-12-27 08:53 | lethosor | Note Added: 0034215 | |
| 2015-12-27 08:53 | lethosor | Assigned To | => lethosor |
| 2015-12-27 08:53 | lethosor | Status | new => feedback |
| 2015-12-27 08:53 | lethosor | Relationship added | related to 0009223 |
| 2015-12-27 18:12 | Button | Note Added: 0034230 | |
| 2015-12-28 10:54 | Kumquat | Note Added: 0034239 | |
| 2015-12-28 10:54 | Kumquat | Status | feedback => assigned |
| 2015-12-28 13:20 | lethosor | Status | assigned => acknowledged |
| 2016-05-08 17:46 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0009663 |
| 2017-01-21 07:51 | Loci | Note Added: 0036193 | |
| 2017-01-22 15:32 | FantasticDorf | Note Added: 0036203 | |
| 2017-01-22 17:59 | Loci | Note Added: 0036206 | |
| 2017-01-22 20:29 | lethosor | Relationship added | related to 0010118 |
| 2017-04-22 17:13 | Loci | Relationship added | has duplicate 0010204 |
| 2017-06-16 08:08 | eroen | Note Added: 0036611 | |
| 2018-04-25 11:52 | Loci | Relationship added | related to 0010544 |
| 2020-03-12 21:01 | DJ_Devil | Note Added: 0040364 | |
| 2023-01-11 07:31 | kitfox | Additional Information | => Apparently sometimes generated instruments require materials that their associated civilization is unable to produce; in case of elf civilization, metal, silk and leather. In this case the game will pick some completely random material (possibly uni... |
| 2023-01-11 07:31 | kitfox | Additional Information | Apparently sometimes generated instruments require materials that their associated civilization is unable to produce; in case of elf civilization, metal, silk and leather. In this case the game will pick some completely random material (possibly uni... => |
| 2023-01-15 11:10 | anonymous | Note Added: 0041699 |
