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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0000944Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Noblespublic2010-04-10 13:292023-11-29 10:50
ReporterGauHelldragon Assigned Touser11 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityunable to reproduce
Status confirmedResolutionopen 
Summary0000944: Baron demands turtle shell door in dining room, and other demands of unattainable item/material combinations
DescriptionPretty much as it says! Not much else to say?
Tagsdemands, Intentional/Expected?, noble

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has duplicate 0001844 closeduser6 Nobles issue impossible mandates. 
has duplicate 0004089 resolveduser6 Duke demanding lay pewter bed 
has duplicate 0004970 resolveduser6 demands fine pewter slab in office 
has duplicate 0007408 resolveduser6 Noble demands rose gold bed. 
has duplicate 0009263 resolvedlethosor Metal Beds demands are back 
has duplicate 0009850 resolveduser11 A noble is demanding a steel bed 
has duplicate 0010083 resolvedLoci Mayor wants impossible Rattlesnake Bone Throne 
has duplicate 0010842 resolvedlethosor Count mandates a clear glass bed 
related to 0007590 resolvedToady One [SPOILERS] Mayor demands items of new HFS material (shiny, frosty, etc metal) 
related to 0007098 resolvedToady One Dwarves can have a preference for random/divine metal 

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DKS

2010-04-22 23:58

reporter   ~0004685

I have got a demand for an adamantine bed in the dining room myself.

tomsk

2010-07-25 05:11

reporter   ~0010951

My Baroness just demanded a pewter bed for her throne room.

phahoehoe

2010-10-05 15:33

reporter   ~0013218

My mayor demand a steel bed

smjjames

2010-10-05 15:40

reporter   ~0013219

It's just one of those quirks of DF. The good thing though is that demands, unlike mandates, can be safely ignored without having one of your dwarves punished and the noble will forget about it after a while.

Malibu Stacey

2010-10-07 07:18

reporter   ~0013236

"It's just one of those quirks of DF."

It's surprising how many bugs you describe as "quirks" smjjames.

This is clearly a bug even if it's very benign.

burlingk

2010-10-07 08:31

reporter   ~0013237

Last edited: 2010-10-07 08:32

 Are you sure it is a bug? If the materials and the objects exist, there are those in the real world that will insist they have an object made of the material... Even if no one in their right mind is going to make it.

Add to that the fact that moods do often produce these things. ^^;;

After all, what kind of tyrant would be be if he asked for things you could actually produce? :)

Quietust

2010-11-07 20:43

reporter   ~0013669

Countess just demanded a steel bed in her tomb. Of course, a platinum bed would've been fine, since a moody blacksmith made one several years back.

Artificer

2011-02-25 05:09

reporter   ~0015496

My Countess is demanding a brass bed in her tomb... what is it with countesses wanting beds in their tombs? Bit creepy if you ask me.

randyshipp

2011-05-07 08:57

reporter   ~0017647

Mayor demands bismuth bronze bed in office. I'm with Malibu Stacey: it's a bug and should be fixed, unless it's the result of some actual mental instability in the ruler in question. I have no problem with unstable rulers making wacky requests, but healthy dwarves should not.

Xars

2012-01-21 14:59

reporter   ~0019409

Mayor demanded a platinum bed in his office. Impossible to complete unless a dwarf has a mood.

quintilius

2012-02-26 00:14

reporter   ~0020700

echoing the above - demand for steel bed in his office. i dont know what he thinks goes on in those meetings with elven ambassadors...

Xotano

2012-02-26 05:58

reporter   ~0020709

you know, usually they have a terrible "accident" after demanding such things.

user11

2013-03-03 23:44

  ~0023867

I can't say I've paid attention to demands in recent forts - did the mandate fix for 34.01 relax these types of demands as well (it was released around the time reporters stopped posting here)?

Panzerdwarf

2013-03-05 16:21

reporter   ~0023881

Mayor demands Billon bed in Dining Room.

user11

2013-03-05 22:01

  ~0023883

Thank you.

Chthon

2015-06-30 00:21

reporter   ~0032824

Just want to add, I have this in 2014 version. For me it's a bone throne from a kind of bird that doesn't even exist in my climate. Last I checked, bone is one of the materials you cannot make a throne out of, thus it's not isolated to beds.

braiam

2015-12-08 19:24

reporter   ~0033660

Still found on 42.02. Lay pewter bed in Dinning Room by Baron.

Robsoie

2018-01-24 17:31

reporter   ~0037704

Last edited: 2018-01-24 21:56

 Still present in 44.05 , my recent Baron just demanded a crystal glass bed.
https://i.imgur.com/l0vtN9z.png

Sarmatian123

2018-01-25 06:46

reporter   ~0037707

Vanilla 0.44.05. My duchess just demanded trifle pewter table in her dining room. I have in stock like 50 trifle pewter bars. :) Still, she can keep dreaming. :)

This entire faulty economic system of owning personal items, demands on items, production order demands, coins and hungry Dwarves eating basic cooking ingredients, when complaining about missing lavish food, while there are 100+ barrels of it... needs sorely rewriting from ground up. Including missing treasury workshop to store all material coins in.

I know, there are people, who understand feudalism in the socialist lying propaganda way, but seriously even basic corporate capitalism is more close to it, then all you can squeeze out of the faulty socialist propaganda lies about feudalism. Like missing basic understanding, that feudal peasantry were actually small capitalists and not seasonal farm workers. Those last were hired by those feudal peasants in turn and not by noble land owners. Socialism puts entire feudal economy around on head, to coin phrase, that someone supposedly was "slave" in this economic system despite owning privately capital or shares in it.

user11

2018-01-25 09:43

  ~0037708

Reminder sent to: Sarmatian123

That sounds like suggestion territory and something more appropriate to discuss on the forums than in the bug report.
Thanks.

gorge

2018-03-31 09:55

reporter   ~0038094

Confirmed in vanilla 44.07. Baron demands lay pewter bed.

Deity Link

2020-12-01 13:58

reporter   ~0040812

Confirmed in vanilla 47.04. Mayor demands a clear glass bed.

Corona688

2020-12-26 11:30

reporter   ~0040830

Last edited: 2020-12-26 11:30

 Decorating a door with turtle shell will do IIRC, it need not be a 100% turtle shell door. You can also cut some clear glass and encrust a bed with them.

Impossible objects can be created by fey moods sometimes, also. There was a floodgate made out of bone...

Quietust

2023-11-29 10:49

reporter   ~0041923

Last edited: 2023-11-29 10:50

 I've just looked at a disassembly of the relevant logic, and decorations do NOT satisfy demands - all it does is fetch the item type + item subtype + material + matgloss of the building item itself and compare them against what's stored in the demand (where any unspecified fields are treated as wildcards), with improvements being completely ignored.

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Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-04-10 13:29 GauHelldragon New Issue
2010-04-10 13:30 GauHelldragon Tag Attached: noble
2010-04-10 20:38 Khym Chanur Tag Attached: demands
2010-04-22 23:58 DKS Note Added: 0004685
2010-05-13 10:11 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0001844
2010-05-13 18:18 Daetrin Tag Attached: burrow
2010-05-13 18:18 Daetrin Tag Detached: burrow
2010-07-25 05:11 tomsk Note Added: 0010951
2010-10-05 15:33 phahoehoe Note Added: 0013218
2010-10-05 15:40 smjjames Note Added: 0013219
2010-10-07 07:18 Malibu Stacey Note Added: 0013236
2010-10-07 08:31 burlingk Note Added: 0013237
2010-10-07 08:32 burlingk Note Edited: 0013237
2010-11-07 20:43 Quietust Note Added: 0013669
2011-02-25 05:09 Artificer Note Added: 0015496
2011-02-28 08:20 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0004089
2011-05-07 08:57 randyshipp Note Added: 0017647
2011-11-29 12:17 user6 Relationship added has duplicate 0004970
2012-01-21 14:59 Xars Note Added: 0019409
2012-02-26 00:14 quintilius Note Added: 0020700
2012-02-26 05:58 Xotano Note Added: 0020709
2012-02-26 07:38 user6 Summary Baron Demands Turtle Shell Door in Dining Room. => Baron demands turtle shell door in dining room, and other demands of improbable item/material combinations
2012-02-26 07:38 user6 Summary Baron demands turtle shell door in dining room, and other demands of improbable item/material combinations => Baron demands turtle shell door in dining room, and other demands of unattainable item/material combinations
2013-03-03 23:44 user11 Note Added: 0023867
2013-03-03 23:44 user11 Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2013-03-05 16:21 Panzerdwarf Note Added: 0023881
2013-03-05 22:01 user11 Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2013-03-05 22:01 user11 Note Added: 0023883
2014-07-17 00:38 user11 Relationship added has duplicate 0007408
2014-07-29 12:05 user11 Relationship added related to 0007590
2014-07-29 12:08 user11 Assigned To => user11
2014-07-29 12:08 user11 Status new => acknowledged
2014-09-14 17:58 user6 Relationship added related to 0007098
2015-06-30 00:21 Chthon Note Added: 0032824
2015-12-07 14:40 lethosor Relationship added has duplicate 0009263
2015-12-08 19:24 braiam Note Added: 0033660
2016-06-20 10:21 user11 Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected?
2016-06-20 10:21 user11 Status acknowledged => confirmed
2016-06-20 10:22 user11 Relationship added has duplicate 0009850
2016-12-08 05:47 Loci Relationship added has duplicate 0010083
2018-01-24 17:31 Robsoie Note Added: 0037704
2018-01-24 21:56 Robsoie Note Edited: 0037704
2018-01-25 06:46 Sarmatian123 Note Added: 0037707
2018-01-25 09:43 user11 Note Added: 0037708
2018-03-31 09:55 gorge Note Added: 0038094
2018-07-18 12:56 lethosor Relationship added has duplicate 0010842
2020-12-01 13:58 Deity Link Note Added: 0040812
2020-12-26 11:30 Corona688 Note Added: 0040830
2020-12-26 11:30 Corona688 Note Edited: 0040830
2023-11-29 10:49 Quietust Note Added: 0041923
2023-11-29 10:50 Quietust Note Edited: 0041923