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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000753 | Dwarf Fortress | Dwarf Mode -- Trade | public | 2010-04-07 16:57 | 2020-02-18 13:53 |
| Reporter | mrdudeguy | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | low | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | random |
| Status | new | Resolution | open | ||
| Summary | 0000753: Merchants bring barrels of blood and tears | ||||
| Description | The first group of traders brought 10-20 barrels of blood. | ||||
| Tags | blood, Intentional/Expected?, item, trade | ||||
| has duplicate | 0001468 | closed | Human traders brought blood barrels | |
| has duplicate | 0010351 | resolved | Merchants arrive with multiple barrels of blood | |
| related to | 0003088 | new | Blood in barrels cannot be dumped | |
| related to | 0001741 | confirmed | No stockpile toggles for barrels of blood/tears | |
| related to | 0003398 | new | Frozen milk and blood barrels cannot be stored | |
| related to | 0001044 | resolved | Toady One | Human Traders Brought "liquid" |
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And they're not supposed to? |
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how exactly is this a bug? |
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Bringing entire barrels full of blood does not exactly seem like intended behavior. Seriously, I don't think it's even useful. |
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I don't think this is a bug. but you have a point. Why do they bring blood? Are we supposed to buy this blood? Why? What would we do with it? It doesn't seem to serve any function. I suppose its no different than them bringing unusable plant extracts as trade goods. But then, that doesn't really make sense either. |
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Barrels of cow blood: ok I can understand that. It's when they bring barrels filled with monarch butterfly ichor that I start to wonder. |
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Perhaps this will be a more useful feature down the line, when things like alchemy and magic are working and require reagents, so I would imagine it's intended. |
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Perhaps there was a vampire fort just down the road. |
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Perhaps used for cooking? Its a valid item used in foodstuffs for a very long time in the real world. That being said, I don't know if blood is marked properly as an edible / cooking enabled item, but the forum project to clean up the raws addresses this i think. |
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Same thing encountered here... Klingon bloodwine anyone?:P Maybe this can be worked into a feature by enabling kitchen/still to use blood(Some cuisine use (processed)blood for cooking, But I have no idea if blood has ever been used for alcohols in reality...) If blood's ever going to be made into food...there are still bugs with cooking liquid AFAIK... |
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If we had some way of removing the blood from the barrel we could make a blood bath or other "interesting" features but as it stands its just takeing up space that beer could be taking. |
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@GauHelldragon: Yeah, I got barrels of firefly ichor with my first caravan. Must have been a small barrel, as there were only 10 units of the stuff (or each unit took hundreds of fireflies to get). |
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Considering the fact that there are actual RL recipes that use blood (like blood sausage for example)I also don´t see it as bug. At least getting blood as trade objects (I hope that it really can get used in meals...if not, I would rather consider this to be a bug ;) ) As for getting butterfly ichor... well, considering the fact that we get other strange things like, for example, firefly brains and are able to turn them into meals, I assume it seems to be rather normal in the world of dwarf fortress :D |
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Likely because blood is considered an animal extract such as venom and milk. |
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As a workaround for emptying the barrels; forbid the blood, then have the barrel be taken to the trade depot. A dwarf should then move the barrel and leave the blood in the stockpile. I accidentally wasted a stockpile full of gnomeblight this way. |
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I'm reasonably certain, from hearing Toady speak about it in at least one podcast, that this is UNINTENDED behaviour, a result of these items being classified as foodstuffs. Alas, there is no [trade-exempt] tag to prevent these things from appearing in strange quantities (like the barrels full of insect brains), so the materials are collected, just like everything else. |
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There are pages of different blood available on embark. Not bad as such, but could take some adjustments. Like making it uncommon for traders (without request) and a few applications in cooking/brewing. Also, could vampires drink animal blood when it's available in barrels? |
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Heh I still get "liquid" from my caravans even in 0.40 |
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Reminder sent to: Terff The bringing 'liquid' bug wasn't fixed until 40.06 - are you using a more current version? |
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This stopped for blood without attached syndromes in 43.something, but has started up again in 44.01. |
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@Button: I don't recall blood barrels ever being blocked. Here's a trading-test save I created in v0.43.05; the dwarven caravan is offering barrels of hamster blood and wombat blood, among others: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13090 |
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Still present in 47.03, the only jobs that handle extracts from animals particularly are animal dissectors which as Quietust remarked in 0001044 c24799 the [USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS] not using robust enough checks. Dwarves have precedent to trade cave spider venom because they can extract it using the 'Extract from a dead animal' job in conjunction with a vial from trapped living cave spiders (the job's name is incorrect in this regard, perhaps referring to vermin small remains). The job also processes & butchers creepy crawlers, as to redeem seemingly any usable material or asset from the living vermin item without any kind of specified target. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2010-04-07 16:57 | mrdudeguy | New Issue | |
| 2010-04-07 17:01 | Lemunde | Note Added: 0001890 | |
| 2010-04-07 19:41 | ercdvs | Note Added: 0001918 | |
| 2010-04-07 22:45 | G-Flex | Note Added: 0001954 | |
| 2010-04-08 00:48 | derigo | Note Added: 0001974 | |
| 2010-04-08 01:36 | GauHelldragon | Note Added: 0001980 | |
| 2010-04-08 01:40 | timferius | Note Added: 0001981 | |
| 2010-04-08 06:51 | anti-paragon | Note Added: 0002013 | |
| 2010-04-08 07:40 | ercdvs | Note Added: 0002025 | |
| 2010-04-08 08:19 | NoctisVampire | Note Added: 0002034 | |
| 2010-04-08 09:57 | mrdudeguy | Note Added: 0002063 | |
| 2010-04-08 09:57 | mrdudeguy | Tag Attached: trade | |
| 2010-04-08 09:58 | mrdudeguy | Tag Attached: blood | |
| 2010-04-08 09:59 | mrdudeguy | Tag Attached: item | |
| 2010-04-08 10:02 | Draco18s | Note Added: 0002069 | |
| 2010-04-09 17:17 | kaefermelder | Tag Attached: Not a bug | |
| 2010-04-23 14:53 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0001468 |
| 2010-04-23 15:14 | Proteus | Note Added: 0004787 | |
| 2010-04-23 15:15 | Proteus | Note Edited: 0004787 | |
| 2010-04-25 16:24 | Myxine | Note Added: 0005054 | |
| 2010-05-04 05:10 | maanahr | Note Added: 0006085 | |
| 2012-02-19 15:27 |
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Tag Attached: Intentional/Expected? | |
| 2013-03-08 04:23 |
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Tag Detached: Not a bug | |
| 2013-04-18 17:41 | TerryDactyl | Note Added: 0023946 | |
| 2014-07-18 08:47 |
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Relationship added | related to 0003088 |
| 2014-07-18 08:47 |
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Relationship added | related to 0001741 |
| 2014-07-18 08:47 |
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Relationship added | related to 0003398 |
| 2014-07-18 08:48 |
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Relationship added | related to 0001044 |
| 2014-07-18 08:48 |
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Summary | Traders bring Blood => Merchants bring barrels of blood and tears |
| 2014-11-14 07:13 | TBeholder | Note Added: 0030983 | |
| 2015-03-09 14:25 | Terff | Note Added: 0032355 | |
| 2015-03-09 14:25 | Terff | Note Edited: 0032355 | |
| 2015-03-09 16:23 |
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Note Added: 0032360 | |
| 2017-11-24 18:08 |
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Relationship added | has duplicate 0010351 |
| 2017-11-26 13:05 | Button | Note Added: 0037033 | |
| 2017-11-28 21:51 | Loci | Note Added: 0037091 | |
| 2020-02-18 13:53 | FantasticDorf | Note Added: 0040105 |
